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    Default Please help me identify this clock

    I am hoping someone can help me identify this Grandfather clock. It has been in my family since the mid 60's. The story I get from my family is as follows. My Grandfather was a Dr. and a long time patient left it to him when he passed away. There is also a story about it being made in a German monastery, but that is from one of the crazy uncles. I am including current photos.

    Any help would be really appreciated.
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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: black296tuuk)

    I think this is a Bawo & Dotter "Monastery" clock. The movement is probably by Math. Bäuerle of St. Georgen, but Monastery was simply a trademark of B&D's.
    Justin A. Olson

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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: chimeclockfan)

    Don't have a clue what it is, but it's a beautiful clock! I'm sure it's the focal point in the room.

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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: chimeclockfan)

    I hope you are not running it like that. The suspension spring and leader seems to be missing. The pendulum is just hanging on the crutch and will do some damage running it like that.
    harold bain, Member ch 33
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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: chimeclockfan)

    The word "Germany" stamped on the dial below 6:00 shows this clock was made no earlier than 1909. I also think it is a B&D but don't know who made the movement.

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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: John Hubby)

    Thank you all for the quick responses. It is all very helpful.

    I have not run the clock and was not planning on trying without someone looking at it first.

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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: black296tuuk)

    In 1997 a "compendium" of Bawo & Dotter catalogue material was published under the auspices of the Greater St. Louis Regional, and St. Louis NAWCC Chapters #14 and our own #168. Although entitled Elite Hall Clocks, the volume contains a range of catalogue material from over several years, as well as movements available at various time, their national origins, dials, and what have you (including some of the e.g. cuckoos they also flogged.) As well as Spittler's essay.

    And would ask our MBer regulars (while welcoming our guest!) to note that I've cited this volume -- available but of course to NAWCC Members through the Library & Research Center's lending library -- several times previously.

    Among the matter is B&D's description of the general classification of movements they offered. "Peerless" for example was Matthias Bäuerle. This is before they go to the more specific. And the (German) Monastery movement was first introduced in 1909.

    And would again ask our MB regulars to please note that a copy of the 1909 US trademark registration for B&D's Monastery has also been posted here previously.

    There is August 1, 1910 catalogue material that describes various Monastery movements (there wasn't just "a"). Among the tubular chiming Monastery -- Chain Wind -- movements are e.g. four "D" combinations." With descriptions of each. One shown looks like our guest's. The Monastery series itself was a B&D partly-developed one, with the actual movements made in Germany, and probably by Mauthe. The B&D Elite and Peerless were from MB by contrast.

    Would suggest that anyone who is interested in these B&D clocks use this, uh, very useful source. My own copy BTW doesn't show any of the cases that I believe the original does -- as I was interested in the MB movements not the cases.

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    Default Re: Please help me identify this clock (RE: zepernick)

    Welcome to the Message Board, black296tuk and thanks for posting your clock.

    It looks fine and has a high quality movement that will probably work well for another
    century, if cared for.

    There might be a good chance, that there are other markings under the small plate "Germany".
    Perhaps you will find the actual maker there.
    Jurgen "tempus nostrum"

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