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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: Jerry Treiman)

    I was wondering about the Wadsworth Waltham cases marked "Riverside Waltham Watch Co" on the cuvee. Mine is a 19j semi-bridge #19059770. Were these movements usually factory cased?

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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: Kevin Moodie)

    Hi,
    I have just acquired #7076059 which I believe to be from the third run of this 17j Riverside model. It is in need of some TLC but from the photos I've seen it has the pressed dial, roman numerals but no gold centre wheel. I will post photos later next week once it has arrived here in UK.
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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: Kevin Moodie)

    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    If all else fails - try sticking it in a case taken from a non-running model 1897 (e.g. grade "Bond St" or similar.) ... [/IMG]
    If you are referring to hawk61’s Riverside-A, I am afraid this will fail too. The Colonial-A is a much thinner movement and the stem will not line up well, front to back, in a case for a standard thickness movement like the 1897 model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Moodie View Post
    I was wondering about the Wadsworth Waltham cases marked "Riverside Waltham Watch Co" on the cuvee. Mine is a 19j semi-bridge #19059770. Were these movements usually factory cased?
    I usually see this type of case marking on their Colonial Series movements, but yours would appear to be standard 12-size (based on the serial number records). This would not be as common. In the ‘teens (and even a little earlier) Waltham started doing more factory casing of their movements. These were usually custom sizes, but they also evidently cased some standard size movements. Movements were still available as well for casing by the jeweler.

    Allan - I look forward to seeing pictures of your movement.
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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: Jerry Treiman)

    Jerry,

    thanks for the information.

    Kevin

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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: Kevin Moodie)

    Jerry and All,
    As promised, here are photos of the 12s Riverside which arrived today. From a superficial examanation it has a broken staff and the crown wont lift to allow setting of the hands. The case is a 20yr GF with the bow missing. Otherwise I'm pleased to have it for my collection and it will have to await its turn for service/repair as I've been a bit overactive in the acquisition department this year!!
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    Default Re: Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (By: AllanB)

    Very nice and early. That should clean up beautifully. I always like the gold jewel settings on these. You will note the following features of the earlier movements: pressed center dial on the earliest ones; brass center wheel (gold center wheel did not appear until maybe 7.3 million), riveted balance staff (friction staff appears in the 10-millions) and also (probably) an earlier mainspring type (hook end rather than hole end).
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