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    Default Any idea as to why this sold so high.

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260956098450?...#ht_5736wt_702

    Thanks, looks like a ordinary full size clock, nothing too unusual.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Kevin W.)

    Must be the sizzle (the description) that sold it.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: harold bain)

    Or perhaps just a bidding war, as i dont see anything special about it.
    Remember who said sell the sizzle not the steak.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Kevin W.)

    Hi Kevin if you take a closer look at photo no. 6 and no. 11 the gear that connects to the escape looks different i dont see the regular 4 holes a gear would normally have it looks like a solid wheel with teeth. I could be wrong it could a reflection.

    Sorry about my terminology I have to learn a lot.

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Shayne)

    Hummm... Rare white dial..... Not needed a service or adjustment in the last 30 years..... An antique from the late 40s early 50s ... and did you see their technicians... I have my suspicions.....
    Too many clocks and not enough time, Tony

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Tony10Clocks)

    it´s one of the few with the maintaining power spring incorporated in the 3rd wheel.See pics from the side(5th pic in the second row),the third wheel is solid,not spoked out and thicker than normal.Maybe that´s the reason allthough I have seen those selling for 20$ also.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Burkhard Rasch)

    Two things jumped out at me. One, the use of tight cropping on the back plate photo so as to not show the production date. That may have screwed up the narrative.

    Two, for such a fine clock you would expect it to be complete including the suspension guard.

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Joe Collins)

    It was hyped up, but it only takes two bidders to tango.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Joe Collins)

    Well... It came with a key...
    Pretty unremarkable, except for the power maintaining 3rd wheel. I've got a half-dozen just like it. Most of mine have painted columns and base.
    The dial does appear to be craze-free, which is a little uncommon (Once it hits the freezing temperature of an airplane's hold, during shipment, that can easily change.).
    The base has obviously been touched-up as can be seen by the dark recesses in the reeding.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Joe Collins)

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Collins View Post
    ...the use of tight cropping on the back plate photo so as to not show the production date. That may have screwed up the narrative....
    Joe
    The actual production month/year were not shown in the photos but aren't they always within a few years of the "release date" or "model date" or "design date" or whatever it's called which is represented by the "49" in the middle of the circular logo shown in the photo? I've never seen a clock's production date be more than about 5 years off from the year represented in the circle. (Maybe I just haven't seen enough clocks?) I have two models with a "49" in the circle--one has a production date of 6, 53 and the other has 1, 54. So, for me, I believe their clock is definitely from the era of "circa late 1940s or early 50s" as stated. Just sayin'.

    Beyond that, I also have no idea why anyone would have paid this much for this clock. Like the others have said, must be the sizzle.

    And I have to say I cracked up when I saw their "technicians," as Tony called them. LOL.
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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: Kevin W.)

    Most likely two bidders wanting to add a very clean 3rd wheel maintaining power Schatz to their collection? I agree it should have had a suspension guard.

    The 3rd wheel design was introduced in 1953 and discontinued in 1955, so the clock would have been made in that time period.

    With regard to how long the Schatz 49 mark was used, the latest date in my data is 7 _ 68 (July 1968) but could be others later. NOTE that Plate 1014C has the date 5 _ 65 (May 1965) stamped. So, it hung around for going on 20 years, first being introduced in 1949.

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: harold bain)

    Here is more food for thought: The 'rare white dial' is in outstanding condition, and caught my eye at once. I have seen these over the years for repair with sometimes severe dial finish checking, of the known painted dial types. The dial shows us the clock likely was not displayed where the sun could get to it, or perhaps it rested in a box since new as so many have. My bet is the dial itself sold the clock up, tip of the hat to the buyer who knew what is crucial in factory original appearance condition of these clocks. Best ~

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: MartinM)

    ebay buyers have no rhyme or reason. I've seen very similar clocks sell for extremes in price. Some things I've noted are shiny sells, working sells, complete sells, with key sells, with a box sells, and yes sizzle sells.

    People will often pay more for a good product and service after sale. I have a clock from this seller (didn't pay anywhere near that much) and they go to great lengths to ensure satisfaction. The cats packed it extremely well, it came with detailed instructions for setup, and it worked out of the box.

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    Default Re: Any idea as to why this sold so high. (RE: MartinM)

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinM View Post
    It happened, again....
    Like Tony mentioned, it's those technicians! You know you're getting top-notch quality clocks when they're being packed & shipped by cats!
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