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    Default Post your LFS clocks here

    This clock came off Ebay and arrived in a terrible shape, due
    to lack of proper packaging, but that's a different story.
    Lorenz Furtwängler Söhne clocks don't show up very often here
    on the board and having some thyme, I thought, I might as well
    post it and point out some details.
    LFS clocks have, no doubts about it, at least the same finishing
    standards as Lenzkirch clocks, on both movements and cases.
    For instance, there are fine machined quick-out barrels with barrel
    hooks riveted in. Hooks, not just mere rivets. Lids snap back on with
    hand pressure only.
    The pressure springs for the strike levers are fixed to threaded brass
    pieces, that screw into the plates and the springs fit brass collets on
    the levers.
    Canon pinion, hour and minute wheel have index dots for easy positioning.
    All parts are numbered, or have have the typical file marks and the winding
    arbors are marked to fit the appropiate barrel.
    The rest is "state of the art"
    The clock is fairly large, about 14 x 13 inches with a 7 inch dial and is
    finished in oak. There are almost no catalogues available to the public;
    my best guess to dating would be ca. 1925.

    Enjoy the pics.

    Jurgen
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    Jurgen "tempus nostrum"

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    There's a little bit of an artical HERE if it helps any. It looks like a nice solid movement. Nice one
    Last edited by soaringjoy; 12-30-2011 at 04:14 PM.
    Too many clocks and not enough time, Tony

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    Hello Jurgen,

    If I may I would like to add another LFS clock to your thread. We don't have a separate thread as far as I know, I guess because we don't see that many.

    This is a really nice clock and the case does make me think of Lenzkirch. Two photos of the case and then the movement on a test stand. The pendulum hangs in the back of the case.

    I am currently working on another LFS tall case movement but have not seen the case.

    Best,

    Richard T.
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Richard T.)

    Splendid clock!
    LFS was well connected to the Furtwangen School of clockmaking
    which was trying to get the clock industry to a certain level of
    standards around 1850.
    Beside that, they were innovative about case making and styles, too.
    Jurgen
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyboy View Post
    There's a little bit of an artical HERE if it helps any. It looks like a nice solid movement. Nice one
    Yeah, well thanks for the link.
    It's one of those, that always gets me upset, because it's full
    of typos and errors; sorry, don't want to offense you.

    Too long a story for tonight.
    The company name was Lorenz Furtwängler Söhne, without the "&",
    meaning "sons of L. Furtwängler". Oh my.

    Jurgen
    Last edited by soaringjoy; 12-30-2011 at 04:16 PM.
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    Quote Originally Posted by soaringjoy View Post


    Yeah, well thanks for the link.
    It's one of those, that always gets me upset, because it's full
    of typos and errors; sorry, don't want to offense you.

    Too long a story for tonight.
    The company name was Lorenz Furtwängler Söhne, without the "&",
    meaning "sons of L. Furtwängler". Oh my.

    Jurgen
    No offence taken, It's just one of things you find on google
    Last edited by soaringjoy; 12-30-2011 at 04:20 PM.
    Too many clocks and not enough time, Tony

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Tony10Clocks)

    Yes, the internet has a somewhat fatal tendancy to multiply
    errors and mistakes.
    They do show up again and again and are even quoted in newest
    publications, leading to new quotes and misquotes.
    At least it's good to know, that even some other sites refer to our
    MB for genuine information.
    A lot is known about the LFS story, almost all in German, though.

    Jurgen
    Last edited by soaringjoy; 12-30-2011 at 04:13 PM.
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    Hi Gents,
    The topic reminds me the only one LFS clock I have.
    I love that because of hand made descriptions on it.
    I enclose a few pictures:

    By ulan65 at 2010-09-21

    By ulan65 at 2010-09-21

    By ulan65 at 2010-09-21

    By ulan65 at 2010-09-21

    It seems to be the complet.
    The bigger weight is not orginal, and alarm weight is missing. Still I hope to find orginal.


    And tipical questions: is the clock in some catalog to identify type and production date? Before 1914? Or maybe 1894? ( that suggests the description, if I read it in correct way?)
    DR Patent - what was patented?
    The serial number is 4437 and H is the signature of clock maker/assembler, right? What about the abbreviations, other numbers and drawing?
    Last edited by soaringjoy; 12-30-2011 at 04:54 PM. Reason: minor change
    Best Regards
    U1

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Ulan)

    Ulan, I suppose this is the Deutsches Reichspatent (D.R.P.).
    It was for the centrifugical alarm with repitition.
    I will get back to you "next year" with more pictures and
    infos on your clock - called a "postman's alarm" in English,
    or more plainly in German, a "Schottenwecker".
    You might be interested in this thread:
    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?t=81818
    Jurgen
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    I have added a shortcut to this thread in the Post Your Maker's Clock sticky at the top of the Clocks forum. For convenience, I have also moved this thread from the New Acquisitions forum.
    “If one tells the truth, one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out.” - Oscar Wilde

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Steven Thornberry)

    Did someone say LFS? Here is my keeper. The movement runs, and strikes, but needs cleaning. The case restoration will be a project.
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Chris Radano)

    Chris - WOW.
    For me it looks as Dutch&German eclectic style!
    I love that heavy, brass cases!
    I have no clue that LFS had so big product portfolio.
    Best Regards
    U1

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Ulan)

    Ulan, here is an undated LFS catalogue picture showing weights and dimensions
    of your postman's alarm clock. LFS had 7 models listed at that time.
    The other pics are of another original clock.
    Jurgen

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: soaringjoy)

    I'll add the pictures of the clock from the library I work in for those who haven't seen my original thread.

    It was built before 1914 in Furtwangen by Lorenz Furtwängler Söhne. The case style has elements of "Gründerzeit", or "Alt Deutsch".

    Once again, thank you very much Richard T. and Jurgen for the data provided!
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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: Librarian)

    Hi Soaringjoy,

    Your comment comparing LFS to Lenzkirch got my attention. I have to give you a nod of agreement from the "LenzkirchFan"!

    I bought an LFS bracket clock in a cherry case to give to my mother-in-law for Christmas a couple of years ago. The movement and case were of very high quality. I also own an LFS grandfather clock movement - everything except the case. It is heavy, well made and well finished. Just like the several Lenzkirch grandfather movements that I own.

    Many of their grandfather clocks are the open well type which were beautiful and still desirable! Many are designed similar to Lenzkirch grandfather clocks and they also have quality engraved dials like some Lenzkirch clocks.

    LFS clocks have the quality to stand out on their own. Thanks for starting this thread!

    Steve

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    Default Re: Post your LFS clocks here (By: LenzkirchFan)

    Glad you agree, Steve.

    This type of weird double decker Westminster chimes movement and clock does not show up often; I believe I've seen only 3 through the years in learning about clocks.
    There's not much I could say about it, but do note the third winding arbor over the "12".
    LFS also had a more contemporary Westminster movement type, using a combination of a
    coil and a rod gong with a 1912 D.R.P.

    Jurgen





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