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  1. #136

    Default Re: This is how I intend to develop my second version..............

    Hi Everyone,

    I moved things around in my shop today to make some room.

    So, I decided to take these photos to show how I will be mounting my next generation movement for testing and completion. Only once I have everything as I want it, I will build the case. Until then I will be making a polycarbonate box that will be mounted first. Anything I happen to be testing will be inside of it.

    First these studs are tightened about 1 1/8 inch deep:

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    The other large stud pattern is for the day I intend to play with an upside down movement and eliminate the bridge for the escape wheel. The two smaller holes are for my current clock already viewed.

    Next, the cast iron mount:

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    Then the movement:

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    These bosses will go through whatever test box or cabinet I use so the movement is solidly bolted to the stand and wall eventually:

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    Just another view - I like this side best:

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    We live in a VERY dusty area. Keeping it out is why I first thought about some type of enclosure. The plastic box will also be used for vacuum testing at times. I would prefer glass, but it is too dangerous w/high vacuums.
    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

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    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Quote Originally Posted by jhe.1973 View Post
    Shucks, I meant to weigh the clock when we got back and I forgot. Really, honest!

    It's now back on the wall so it will have to wait.

    The stand alone weighs 108 pounds, the pendulum 28 (IIRC) driving weight is 6, so I will guess total is in the ballpark of 200 pounds.
    So, when you transport it, is the case and the stand taken as two separate items, or is the case attached to the stand for moving? I guess it is a two man job, regardless.
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  3. #138

    Default Re: In case any are interested..............

    Quote Originally Posted by harold bain View Post
    So, when you transport it, is the case and the stand taken as two separate items, or is the case attached to the stand for moving? I guess it is a two man job, regardless.
    The clock stays fastened to the stand for transporting. Last year I loaded it alone so it is do-able. Because it is so tall, it can be tipped back and into our Dodge Caravan. Then just the one end has to be lifted and slid the rest of the way in. I pack the pendulum & weight separately and fasten the movement/dial assembly back in place. I also roll up a small amount of packing foam and squeeze it under the escape arbor bridge so all the weight of the movement isn't on the screws in to the lower posts. Unloading is the reverse.

    This year I had help loading 'cuz the clock is 5 inches higher on the stand & I wasn't too sure about tipping it down in my crowded shop (low ceiling). I will probably ask for help again. Sure made the job easier.

    Unloading/loading at the regional Angela helped me so be careful of saying its a two 'man' job.........although when she worked at a furniture store her nickname was 'Mangela', so I guess you are OK!



    When we got back from the regional I unloaded it by myself, but took the door off the clock, then the clock from the stand to just move the bare case.

    Guess I'm getting tired of playing gorilla --- or tired from playing gorilla!

    Last edited by jhe.1973; 03-29-2017 at 08:21 PM.
    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  4. #139

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    Hi Everyone,

    One of our retired chapter members (Mike) was a professional photographer. He is in charge of taking photos at our regional each year. Recently he sent me a few shots he took in 2016 & 2017.

    I thought I'd post these two from 2016 'cuz of the human interest angle, plus I thought they are cute.

    In this view, you can see the clerestory windows I mentioned earlier that gave me some trouble in the afternoon.
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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  5. #140

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Apparently something has changed and I am unable to place photos within the text so I am doing it this way.

    In view two this young man had spent enough time interested in the clock that Mike was able to move around and take more shots:
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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  6. #141

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    In the last photo of post #122 I forgot to point out one of the changes I made. The adjustable feet are shorter/stiffer with a ball welded to them for a better bearing with any uneveness in the floor.

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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  7. #142

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Since my adding the ball. I have deepened the socket and added three screws to each pad to retain it when I move the stand. Sorry for the cell phone shot, but I was pressed for time getting ready for the NAWCC Craft Competition:

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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  8. #143

    Default Re: In case any are interested..............

    Hi Everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by harold bain View Post
    So, when you transport it, is the case and the stand taken as two separate items, or is the case attached to the stand for moving? I guess it is a two man job, regardless.
    Since post #138 I did a major rearranging of a large portion of my shop to gain some desperately needed floor space. This was partly for building a way to load & unload my clock & stand alone if necessary.

    I modified a Harbor Freight appliance hand truck using leftover parts from two treadmills I scrounged for the DC motors. The casters fold up like a gurney and the unit drops to one of the treadmill rollers to lift & roll everything into the van. Here it is ready to load at the end of the national. It is now a one gorilla job:

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    Last edited by jhe.1973; 07-06-2017 at 01:58 PM.
    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  9. #144

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Oh yeah.................................... Here it is in the Craft Competition. The stand received a first place in the Horological Tools category and the clock a third in Experimental Timepiece Design:
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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  10. #145

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Here is a bit better shot of the clock/stand and less of the display. On the first day, the clock would not run on its six pound weight that is plenty at home. Luckily I brought the test weight shell w/8 pounds of lead shot. This worked fine and in the morning of the second day I was able to put the smaller weight on. I am pretty sure that this was because of the carpet the stand had to settle into. When I display this at out regional, it runs right away with the smaller weight, but we have ceramic tile on the concrete slab.
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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  11. #146

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    During my rush to get ready for the national, the clock cabinet slipped off of a table in my shop and this is what happened:

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    I was VERY fortunate that the glue for the cornice separated quite cleanly so re-gluing was all that was needed. Could have been SO much worse. No broken glass which would have ended any thoughts of making the trip.

    I have no idea of why some posts let me format type and photos and some place the grey shaded area w/thumbnails. I am doing them all exactly the same.
    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  12. #147

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    I FINALLY polished a few things that either had tarnished through the years or in some cases had never been shined up.

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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  13. #148

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Most of these items had been machined well but because, as I have mentioned, this clock is a guinea pig, I did not pay attention to spit and polish.
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    "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Edison
    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  14. #149

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    Here is an overall view of the new routing for the MicroSet wires:
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    Best wishes to Ya'll. Sincerely, Jim

  15. #150

    Default Re: In case any are interested.............. (By: jhe.1973)

    I made several small brass clamps as shown:
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