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    Default Baume et Mercier Bidynator

    Hi-
    Who has info on this watch and the Bidynator movement? Can someone tell me the age and current market value?Click image for larger version. 

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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: 7baume60)

    Welcome,

    The watch was not made by Baume & Mercier. The term "Bidynator" was a copyrghted name the watch manufacturer Felsa used for the self winding rotor on many of their sutomatic wind movements, during the 1950s. Yours appears to be a Felsa 690 movement. The Felsa series of automatic wind movements were real workhorses during the era they were produced. They weren't the first full rotor, dual wind automatic movements, but they were a very early successful one. Particularly in the popular price range. Appraisals and evaluations are not permitted on this MB.

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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: 7baume60)

    Not made by B&M ? Asking for market value is similar to asking what the average B&M costs now. An appraisal must be done by a qualified person who physically examines an item.

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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: 7baume60)

    It was not made by B & M! The movement was used in countless brand name watches of the era. It was made by Felsa, and the caliber number is (I am certain) 690. B & M on the dial does not signify that it was actually made by the company. There is no way to equate the current market value of your watch (e. g. ebay) by comparing your watch with current offerings by B & M. We do not discuss values on this MB. Sorry!
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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: 7baume60)

    At the time it was made, it would have been a fairly generic mid-grade watch; 17 jewels was low for an auto. It has no current market value, because there's nothing current in the market that compares to it....it's like asking the current market value of some mid-grade Ford sedan from 1970. A <new> mid grade ford sedan sells from 15-30k, but that doesn't really tell you anything at all about the value of the one from the 70's.
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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: AbslomRob)

    Semantics? The current price of a 1970 Ford would depend on demand and condition. I don't see how it's price is related to a new Ford.
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    I'm aware that movements can be generic and used by different marques. The watch is badged as B&M, and that is good enough.

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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: 7baume60)

    Okay, so then I might not understand what you're looking for. We can't judge condition by a photo, and demand for this type of watch will be low.
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    Default Re: Baume et Mercier Bidynator (RE: AbslomRob)

    Some watch companies made their own movements. LeCoultre, Omega, Rolex etc. This has changed today. The companies like B&M bought movements from ebauche (movement) makers like Felsa, A.S., ETA, Pesaux etc. The watch you are showing was made by B&M after they bought an ebauche from Felsa and put their name on it. It's one of the Swiss' little secrets that they didn't want customers to know. The watch company would assign their own caliber number on it as if they had made it.....only they didn't, they ordered it from Felsa. It doesn't mean that the watch is bad or less quality, there are many very high quality watches using Ebauche; Ebel, Breitling, Heuer, etc. even the most expensive brands sometimes used them as in the Valjoux 72 ebauche in the Rolex Daytona. For a complicated watch that was difficult to manufacture, it was cheaper to buy an ebauche. The Swiss could then put the same part in a different envelope and sell it as a brand exclusive part when the watchmaker may have already had the part on hand.

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