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    Default Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch

    I am going to be taking the course below and have no experience in pocket watch repair. I am told that I can bring my own pocket watch and I only have an Omega pocket watch that was just serviced. I would like to purchase an inexpensive pocket watch that will be easy to work on and provide me a good introduction into pocket watch repair.



    I did purchase the book "Simplified Mechanical Watch Repair for Profit: An illustrated Guide" that I will review before this course.



    Can anyone recommend a good watch for me to purchase that I could bring to this course? I am looking for something not to expensive since this is my first time in cleaning/servicing a pocket watch.

    WS-111 Servicing a Pocket Watch for the Beginner

    This 2 day workshop will introduce the student to the proper method to service a pocket watch. The class will examine American watches. Learn how to:

    • Remove the movement from the case
    • Examine and evaluate a movement
    • Disassemble the movement
    • Clean the movement
    • Re-assemble and lubricate the movement
    • Re-case, time and adjust the movement

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: dalesr)

    I would suggest a low jeweled (7 to 11) american pw to start with. Easy to work with and no one cries if it doesn´t turn out well

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: MFRC1956)

    I used an 1886 15 jewel elgin 16S to start with but I had the advantage of playing with a few other watches for about a year and a half before taking the course. You will enjoy the course and drool at the equipment. I stayed at the Holiday Inn about 3 miles from the school, there are also B&Bs nearby if you want to go a little cheaper. I can also recommend a place called Bully's, about a mile from the school, for drinks and dinner, a little pricier than many places but friendly and well stocked. You will probably be taken on a tour of the museum as well which is very enjoyable. Look around the gift shop and find some great books for your enjoyment and education and if you are a member of the NAWCC you get a discount. I wish they had a few more advanced courses for the layman. I can also recommend the basic microlathe course if you ever plan on buying a lathe. Good luck and have lots of fun.

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: richiec)

    Riciec has teh right idea. Start with a a 16 size 15 jewel, prefereably matal dial watch. With lower jewel counts you run a significant risk of worn bearings which make initial; repairs harder. !5 Jewel watches cost littel more than lower jewel count watches so the added quality costs little.

    I recommend 16 size because these are 1/2 or 3/4 plate movements which are easier to re assemble than 18 size full plate movements which require that you learn a few added tricks.

    Also a broken jewel is easier to spot than a worn bearing.

    You can do a quick fix on a metal bearing but it does not last.


    Metal dials are less likely to chip or crack as you learn how to remove them

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: Dr. Jon)

    I look forward to taking this class and thank you all for this input.

    My wife has a Westclox Bull's Eye that was her father's $1 pocket watch. It has sentimental value and it still does run but a bit slow. I was hoping that I could get this watch to run accurately. I do realize that this watch has no jewels but was hoping a good cleaning and oiling would do the trick. What do you think?

    I have seen on Ebay watches from Elgin with 7 jewels and 16 jewels ranging from $25 and greater. I am hoping to get a watch for about $30 that is working but needs cleaning. Hopefully I will find one before my class in May of 2010.

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: dalesr)

    I would not go with the Westclox.These were not really made to be cleaned and oiled like a American pocket watch.if you follow the suggestions made you will be fine.
    Most people do a duncan swish on those Westclox pocket watches.
    I would spend the extra bucks and go for 15.The 7 jewel plates are harder to get pivots in place.A higher jewelled watch is easier to assemble.
    I learned on a 7 jewel and it was a mistake.
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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Kevin,

    Thanks for letting me know. So I will look for a 15 jewel elgin 16S to start with based. Dr. Jon also recommended 16 size because these are 1/2 or 3/4 plate movements which are easier to re assemble than 18 size full plate movements.

    Thanks


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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: dalesr)

    Dalesr, you will find that the dollar watches were riveted together, not screwed so they are best left for later on.

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: richiec)

    Richiec,

    Can I oil the $1 watches without dissembly? I do not plan on taking these dollar watches to class but would like to oil them to see if they keep better time. I know they are cheap and were meant to be disposable but can I service them?

    I may buy a lathe down the road but not right now. I am also learning clocks and eventually I will need a lathe. At that time, I think I would take the lathe course. I heard the course was very good.

    I am currently having a lot of fun with clocks learning the T & S with Count Wheel and plan on learning Rack & Snail. I have always been interested in pocket watches and hopefully this course will be a Win Win for me by providing me a better understanding of pocket watches and hopefully help me with my clocking specifically platform escapements.

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: dalesr)

    I found a Elgin 16 size pocket watch with 15 jewels and was able to buy it on Ebay. I want to thank everyone for their input on this. I will bring this watch to the WS-111 Servicing a Pocket Watch for the Beginner and review the book "Simplified Mechanical Watch Repair for Profit: An illustrated Guide" that I will review before this course.

    Any other recommendations before I take this course?


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    EXCELLENT VINTAGE ELGIN 16 SIZE POCKET WATCH 15 JEWELS SERIAL # 33798095 (DATES 1932/1933) WITH KEYSTONE STEEL (BASE METAL #556859) CASE. BEING SOLD IN AS BOUGHT CONDITION. THE WATCH IS CURRENTLY RUNNING, NOT TIMED, MOST LIKELY NEEDS CLEANING. WATCH HAS BEAUTIFUL DIAL AND HANDS AND APPEARS ALL ORIGINAL.

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    Default Re: Class Servicing Pocket Watches - Purchasing a pocket watch (RE: dalesr)

    Looks like a good choice, if anything breaks, parts are likely available. Have lots of fun at the class.

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