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    Default H Redard & Sons Geneva

    hi-Does anyone know that value and year of this watch please?

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Lynn,

    We'll be happy to help you try to find out more information about your watch, but we need more than just a name to work with. The name could be the maker, but it could also be the original retailer who sold the watch. And we won't be able to help with a valuation, as the variables involved there are just too far beyond our scope.

    If you can post clear pictures of the movement (the watch mechanism), any marks inside the case, and of the dial, we can probably narrow down a date and place of manufacture. Alternately, a clear description of the movement and all markings might give us a place to start.

    Regards,

    Cary Hurt

    [edit=3476=1209494142]typo correction[/edit]
    Cary Hurt


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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cary
    Lymm,

    We'll be happy to help you try to find out more information about your watch, but we need more than just a name to work with. The name could be the maker, but it could also be the original retailer who sold the watch. And we won't be able to help with a valuation, as the variables involved there are just too far beyond our scope.

    If you can post clear pictures of the movement (the watch mechanism), any marks inside the case, and of the dial, we can probably narrow down a date and place of manufacture. Alternately, a clear description of the movement and all markings might give us a place to start.

    Regards,

    Cary Hurt

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Hi-Trying to send picture-via cut and paste-pictures forthcoming--thanks! Lynn

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    H Redard & Sons Geneva
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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    [Here are pictures of the movement. THANKS for any help---Lynn
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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Volume 2 of K. Pritchard's "Swiss Timepiece Makers" has a listing for H. Renard et Fils Geneve. Founded 1844 and won a First Prize with others at the 1876 International Chronometer Contest in Geneva.
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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Quote Originally Posted by RON
    Volume 2 of K. Pritchard's "Swiss Timepiece Makers" has a listing for H. Renard et Fils Geneve. Founded 1844 and won a First Prize with others at the 1876 International Chronometer Contest in Geneva.

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Thank you much!

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    I would rather see a closer view of the movement but from what I can see it looks like you have a very fine item.

    The case looks very good and from its decoration its probably fairly heavy. Some are so thin they are called oil can cases.

    The movement is typical of very high grade items from the Locle area, North of Geneva. It is not jeweld on the center wheel but that came much later for small watcvhes like yours. It has at least one extra cap jewel, which is a sign of a very high grade moement. It may have other high grade features which a closer view woudl show

    Watches of this quality in this size are unusual. It may have more high end features which would make it rare.

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Hello together,
    the case with the "Saturn"-bow and the engraved art looks very nice.
    The dial - especially the subsecond - only dirty?
    The movement looks as far as I can identify to a "neuch‚teleuse" Le Locle style (Ebauche made of Piguet FrŤres).
    Age around 1870-80.
    Weight around 80-85 gramms (without the chain).

    My best regards
    Tony

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    I agree with Tony about the dating but I think it might be as late as the 1890's.

    We don't do values but the case looks like it has about 1 1/4 Oz of gold in it, more if its a thick case, less if a really thin one. Swiss gold hallmarking was not as relaible as it is today so it may not be fully 18K but you can use this to get an idea of the metal value.


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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.
    I would rather see a closer view of the movement but from what I can see it looks like you have a very fine item.

    The case looks very good and from its decoration its probably fairly heavy. Some are so thin they are called oil can cases.

    The movement is typical of very high grade items from the Locle area, North of Geneva. It is not jeweld on the center wheel but that came much later for small watcvhes like yours. It has at least one extra cap jewel, which is a sign of a very high grade moement. It may have other high grade features which a closer view woudl show

    Watches of this quality in this size are unusual. It may have more high end features which would make it rare.
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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Hi-Thank you. I took a few more closer pictures of the movement. Additionally, it is marked 18k and is indeed very heavy. Thanks for any identification and information. Lynn

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    Default Re: H Redard & Sons Geneva (By: Lynn)

    Hi-I have added close-up pictures of the movement to help with ID. THANKS! Lynn

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