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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Here's a couple of cute repairs for your collection:

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    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Hi Shutterbug,
    Thanks for the contribution. Can you explain the top pic?
    What is the piece of steel with teeth and why is it there.

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    I can't remember exactly, Jerry. I think it was soldered on the other side, supporting the arbor instead of the pivot. What it is? Good question LOL.
    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Quote Originally Posted by shutterbug
    I can't remember exactly, Jerry. I think it was soldered on the other side, supporting the arbor instead of the pivot. What it is? Good question LOL.
    Oh, I think I know (maybe).

    There was (is still?) a phrase that became popular in the last few years: "Value added."

    That's what it must be. Anything added on must be considered valuable. Right?

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    Did you notice that the added piece in the second picture had been punched? I'm trying to visualize why a later repairman would add to an already bad repair?!
    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Here is a good one.
    I wonder how much this person's time is worth.
    The chance of this breaking and causing serious damage is very high.
    Just a reminder, post any pics you have similar to this.
    I will put them all on a website when I have enough.
    PS: I am saving all the "good" ones for later.
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    That one is actually shown in a book. I'll have to find it. Obviously an old book .
    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Here is a unique repair to a self winding three pole rotor movement.
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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    Here is a good one.
    I wonder how much this person's time is worth.
    The chance of this breaking and causing serious damage is very high.
    Jerry, I see this type of spring repair from time to time in clocks repaired during WW2 here. New springs were just not available as the steel was being use for military purposes. While a new spring is ideal, done right, these repairs seem to last quite well.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    This poor Waterbury kitchen came to me for repairs from a local dealer. it was so greasy and crudy I gave it a quick bath to see what I had. Talk about a surprise! Five soldering repairs on one movement and it runs! Pulled it out of the bath and it took right off!

    It looks like crap but .......

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    A count rack from an old tall case bell strike movement. Looks like a rack was affixed to a makeshift (very makeshift) shaft, then soldered to the original tail. Talk about flux corrosion! The sad part is that no solder was needed anywhere on this piece, especially at the tube ends, where it should have been flanged and pressed for adjustability.
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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Quote Originally Posted by tfa
    A count rack from an old tall case bell strike movement. Looks like a rack was affixed to a makeshift (very makeshift) shaft, then soldered to the original tail. Talk about flux corrosion! The sad part is that no solder was needed anywhere on this piece, especially at the tube ends, where it should have been flanged and pressed for adjustability.
    That is another one someone should be ashamed of. Like you say it could have been flared and peened a little to tighten. Solder is sometimes a only choice but it should not be seen and the flux should be throughly removed by simply washing with a little baking soda to neutralize the acid.

    Keep them coming, these pics should make an interesting presentation and hopefully make someone think twice before committing such an act.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Jerry...here are two more I feel should be in your special "Hall of Sham" or was that Shame?

    The first concerns marking the plates. We are professional clock repair people and should be continually raising the bar for ourselves. This photo shows how the "Fixit" person felt it was necessary to mark the pivot holes that needed bushing. If they are bad enough to bush, it isn't necessary to mark the plates...you should be able to see it!




    The second photo demonstrates how NOT to apply a friction bushing. I know the books all tell us to file the bushing flush with the plates. I readily admit, my bushing work may occasionally stand proud of the plate by .1 or .2mm. But this one is ridiculous! I can't wait to see how much of the bushing is actually held in the plates. An extended bushing like this is prone to developing a "key hole" inside the pivot hole and that can be a s
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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Good pics, I see this quite often. I use a magic marker to identify hole and side where the wear is. It comes off during cleaning.

    The proud pivots I don't see too often except when a pivot has broken and the arbor turned back to make a new one. A long bushing will be installed to capture the pivot. I agree, this will also create a keyhole when it wears will create more problems.

    Keep the pics coming, wish more people had digital cameras, they sure come in handy for pics like this and when working on unusual complicated movements. I had assembly pics on over a hundred movements but lost all in a hard drive crash.

    Backing up weekly now.

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    Default Re: Clockmakers Hall of Shame (By: Jerry Kenney)

    Hey Guys & Gals,
    Check out this one. Not only would the solder put escape wheel out of poise but look at the tooth at the 1:00 position.
    This should give a unusual printout on Microset connected to computer and set to record every beat.
    Assuming it will even run.

    Keep these pics coming, I have over a hundred already.
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