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    Default Crest pocket watch

    I was given a Crest pocket watch, not in running shape.It needs work but is complete.Appears someone sprayed a lubricant of some kind into it.Just smells oily.
    My question what is known of the crest company.This watch is swiss and a 17 jewel about a 12 sz.Any information is helpful.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    I was given a Crest pocket watch, not in running shape.It needs work but is complete.Appears someone sprayed a lubricant of some kind into it.Just smells oily.
    My question what is known of the crest company.This watch is swiss and a 17 jewel about a 12 sz.Any information is helpful.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Does it look like a generic Swiss movement?
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    The Crest name might have been a house brand of People's Jewellers in Canada. They were the only ones that carried that brand name in Canada. It appears to have been a name that was owned outright by them. They were an average quality, generic Swiss movement in every one I ever recall seeing. It would sound as though a previous owner might heve been "watchmaking" on it. Or It might have had equivalent treatment by a "production" shop.

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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Hi Doug.I will try to get it running.It has the Crest name on the case as well.At least it is Canadian as sold by a canadian store.I cleaned it tonight but a curb pin on the regulator is broke and the hairspring seems to be lying on the balance wheel.If i cant get this one going i will look on Ebay for one.I have seen a few of these in antique stores here in Ottawa.
    thanks agin for the information.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Kevin, You might try looking for an equivalent Swiss movement to get the entire regulator for your watch. I have a variety of generic Swiss watches in my parts and movement boxes, as, I'm sure, others do.

    Can you give us a close up pic of the regulator and the demensions. Maybe one of us would have a regulator you could use.

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    Here is a picture of the regulator.I will get some dimensions soon for it.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    I have not been able to find out much about the "Crest" label, but Waltham produced some private-label movements marked "Crest" around 1915.


    "CREST" was also a trademark of the Gruen Watch Co. in the late '30s.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Jerry i wonder why they would put Crest on the movement.Maybe someone,s name in the company? Or to sell to a jeweller with that name?
    Interesting note, my watch case says Crest on it also.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    My movements are from the era when a customer might still pick out his movement and case from a selection presented by the jeweler. Crest was probably a "brand" used by a particular jeweler who wanted the name imprinted on his custom-ordered movements. These may have even been made for the same Canadian retailer or wholesaler who sold your watch.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    I have a private label pocket watch with Crest on the movement. It is a 16s. Engraved on the movement is Crest 19j Adjusted 3 positions U.S. pat 24 may 1904. It has a micrometric regulator and the quality seems to be better then the generic swiss movement. The dial is a ds 24hr with Jackson Bros Jewelery Edmonton, AB. It is cased in a pendant style Fortune AWCCo case with no extra case screw marks so assume original to the movement. Jackson Bros Jewelery was a local store in bussiness from about 1900-1950. I've assumed it was of the 1900 - 1920 vintage and might be a gruen based movement because of the quality but maybe it is too early for that? Doesn't look like any Regina/Omega movements I have seen. Does anyone have any movements they are sure are Crest/Gruen?

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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Hi John, sounds like a verry nice watch.And a private label too.Could you possibly post some pictures of it?
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Joe -- I, too, would enjoy seeing a picture of your watch. I have usually seen the 1904 patent regulator on Vacheron & Constantin movements, such as this example ...

    The 1884 U.S. Patent of this same design was assigned to V&C. I believe the 1904 patent is Swiss. Your high-grade movement may demonstrate who this trademark was used by in Canada (Jackson Bros), or if other jewelers also turn up with the "Crest" label, it may have been a label used by a Canadian wholesaler.
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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Jerry and Veritas

    Yesterday when I posted I was working off memory (not the best thing to do) and when I checked the watch last nightfound I got a couple of minor things wrong. There are extra case screw marks on the case so the case is not original to the movement. It's a cashier (25yr) not a fortune (20yr) gf AWCCo case and the dial just reads Edmonton, there is no AB. The engraving on the movement is as I described. The patent information is engraved on the barrel bridge surrounding the ratchet wheel not on the regulator. The regulator is a whip spring type not like the one on the VC you posted Jerry. While it is a decent quality I don't think it is up to the standards of VC - rats you had me going there for a second Jerry. There is currently a Gruen 19 jewel Adj 5 positions on ebay that has a whip spring regulator and Hairspring stud similiar to this Crest which makes me think Gruen likely. I took some pictures last night but I am no photographer and my camera not great. As soon as I can set up a flicker account and figure out how to post pictures I will.

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    Default Crest pocket watch (RE: Kevin W.)

    Trying to post the pics. Here goes.












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