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    Default Early 1900's Ladies Pendant Watch

    Hi Len:

    Your watch sounds like a 'private label,' or 'contract,' watch. Just about all the watch companies, including the Swiss firms, would mark both the watch movements and/or the dials in just about any manner for any customer who wished to pay for the service. I don't have any exact references for the costs, but I've heard (read?) that, for some companies, if five or more watches were ordered, there was no charge for marking the movements. Special dials were said to cost 25 or 50 cents each. Some watch manufacturers were more liberal. Several examples of private labeling availability of Hampden watches are noted in the 1917 Oskamp-Nolting catalog at:
    http://www.midwestcs.com/elgin/pictu...ing/index.html
    (you should copy this link and paste it in your browser address bar since directly linking to this website from the NAWCC Message Board is not possible)
    The illustration of the 18-size Standard Dial in the lower right-hand corner of page DH02 is over the notation that there is 'No Extra Charge for Special Name on Dials'. Page DH06, showing 12-size movements, has a case cuvette illustrated in the bottom center of the page. Its captioned, 'Dealer's Name on Caps of 25 or More 25-Year Cases and on Single 14-K Gold Cases, Without Charge'. Private label watches were contracted for by a large range of companies, from Sears, Roebuck down to the smaller jewelers in the little towns.

    It would be helpful if you could post a picture of the movement, the clearer and sharper, the better. We may be able to identify it by the shape of the plates. To do so, you might find the the information in "How To Open A Pocket Watch Case" useful.

    A digital camera would be very helpful. For an open-face, screw back & bezel watch you can get good results by placing the movement on a flatbed scanner. A hunting-case movement, or an open-face movement in a hinged case would have to be removed from the case for this to work. Otherwise, its back to the camera.

    Larry Jones has written up a useful article on Image Posting, which may be helpful.

    Or, when you click on the Reply button, at the lower right-hand corner of the bottom post in a thread, the Reply To: box that opens has a toolbar. The right-hand icon on the toolbar is a paperclip. Clicking upon the paperclip icon will open a box that allows you to select a picture to attach to your post.

    If you have a problem posting the picture, you can attach it to an e-mail to me (by clicking on my name in the upper left-hand corner of this post) and I'll post it for you.

    Its also helpful if you can post all the markings that are on the movement (the "works") in case they can't be seen in the picture(s).

    Good luck,
    Kent

    That guy down in Georgia
    Kent
    That guy down in Georgia

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    Default Early 1900's Ladies Pendant Watch (RE: Kent)

    Len, you may want to double-check the serial number - 9939316 shows that it's an 18 size, which is a large man's watch about 2 inches across (the size of a watch is the diameter of the movement, instead of the outer dimensions of the case). You indicated that it was a ladies watch, and based on an overall diameter of 1-3/8 inches is probably closer to a 6 size, which would be a ladies sized watch of this era.

    John

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    Default Early 1900's Ladies Pendant Watch (RE: Kent)

    Len:

    Are you sure that the watch is an Elgin? Can you tell us all the markings that are on the movement, the "works"?

    Kent

    That guy down in Georgia
    Kent
    That guy down in Georgia

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