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    Default Re: Muller Bronze Company (RE: harold bain)

    Prior to 1978, I'm not sure what can be found online. See the information at this site. Someone else may know of another source. Nice looking bronze. Was this possibly done by Karl Muller, N's brother?

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    Default Re: Muller Bronze Company (RE: Steven Thornberry)

    Probably not, Steven. He died in Germany in 1887. Could have been Herman, Nicholas's son, who was a partner in the Muller Art Bronze company.
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    Default N.Mueller clock case (RE: jim)

    Can someone tell me about this clock? The label on back says Nicholas Muller's Sons & Co. The bronze pendulum is labeled on the reverse with NMS & Co No. 213. I was told by family that the clock came from Germany, but I am now guessing that was misinformation. Any info as to age or possible value is much appreciated.
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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: dcquinn)

    Hi, dcquinn, welcome to the message board. Your clock was made in New York City, some time between 1875 to 1892. We aren't allowed by message board rules to give values. The following article will help you with information about Muller and his sons;
    http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?title=Muller+Nicholas
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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: harold bain)

    Wow! That was fast. The clock sat on my aunt's mantel for as long as I can remember and that was long before 1975. It is in a wooden case and sure looks Bavarian; very dark wood and has a matching wooden base on which it can be displayed.

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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: dcquinn)

    The wood on your clock is probably black walnut. It would be worth restoring your clock, as these were pretty good quality clocks of the time.
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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: harold bain)

    Quote Originally Posted by harold bain View Post
    The wood on your clock is probably black walnut. It would be worth restoring your clock, as these were pretty good quality clocks of the time.
    And I suspect Muller black walnut clocks are not easy to come by.

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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: Steven Thornberry)

    Steven, I have one, so this is the second I have seen. The number 213 is stamped onto the pendulum bob, so I wouldn't use this as a model number, as my case is different from this one.
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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: jim)

    Harold has asked that I try to resize and post some additional pictures of this clock; including the label. Hope this works.

    Thank you to all who have commented and provided valuable information.

    Diane
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    Default Re: N Muller's Sons Clock #213 (RE: dcquinn)

    Thanks, Diane. I am posting a picture of mine for comparison. It's on my "to do" list. Needs glass, and a transfer.
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    Default Re: Identification Contest - Enter Now! (RE: jim)

    OK.
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    here it is:
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    Default Re: Identification Contest - Enter Now! (RE: Brian Smith)

    It has a nameless paper dial with paper dial insert in the middle (missing in the picture). The bezel has a patent date of May 10, something (can't read the rest).

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    Default Re: Identification Contest - Enter Now! (RE: jim)

    I removed the brass bezel and found the follwing on the case:
    "N.M.S. NY No. 172 Patent".....any help in identification would be most helpful. Thanks

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    Default Re: Identification Contest - Enter Now! (RE: Brian Smith)

    Now that is a great clue! The clock is probably Nicholas Mueller Sons, New York. If I remember correctly they used movements from various companies and made their clock cases. If this isn't correct someone will let us know. Don't remember a lot about the history of the company. Think they did a lot of figural (statue) clocks.

    A bit more info:

    Nicholas Mueller was Florence Kroeber's father-in-law. Mueller fabricated sculptures and clock cases, his company later being renamed to N. Mueller's Sons. In either case, Florence Kroeber moved into the same shop at 8 Cortland Street as N. Mueller's Sons.

    Best,

    Richard T.

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    Default Re: Identification Contest - Enter Now! (RE: Richard T.)

    Richard gets the prize. Casting around on antiqueclockspriceguide.com, I found three examples (out a total of 8) of Mueller clock cases with Waterbury movements, dial, etc. I did not find this one, however (not surprising).

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