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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget?

    Yes, yes, I know it looks like a disaster that's been sitting on a basement shelf for decades, but I was wondering if anyone might be so kind as to help identify this? I refuse to believe it's ready for the dumpster yet, it'll be good "practice" for me.

    I'm not sure if it's a Kundo Junior or a Midget. Rear plate marked "Kundo, Kieninger & Oberfell, Made in West Germany, no (0) jewels unadjusted" Overall height is about 6 1/4 inches, rear plate itself about 1 3/4 wide by 2 3/4 tall.



    Questions:

    Is it a Midget or a Junior? (I'm guessing a Midget)
    Spring size? (I'm guessing .0023")
    Key Size? (3mm?)
    Approximate Production Date? (No idea)
    What is that spring on the top end of the pendulum, around the bottom block?
    Any special things to look for when resurrecting these?

    Kind thanks for helping a new guy figure this out.

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Hi Michael,
    Yes, that's a midget, but I don't have my book here to let you know more. The dome is hard to find in the smaller sizes.

    Andy
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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Yes, it appears to be the midget, plate 1382A. It uses a .0022" spring. It was made in the mid '70s. The adjusting nut works in the opposite direction from normal (tightening makes the clock run faster). It came with a plastic "snap in" spring guard.

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Andy & 'Bug, big thanks! The spring guard is not plastic snap in, but brass and keyhole slotted to fit over screw heads on the back plate, then slide down, screws then tightened. I removed the guard to get a better photo of the back plate. I'll order up a .0022 and probably tear it down over the weekend.

    By the way, what does the spring arrangement on the pendulum/lower block do?



    Thanks again for your help. (And, what does Shutterbug shoot? RF, SLR, MF?)

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    hello ,i have the 1 kundo midget like your ,
    i think that the spring arrangement keeps there the pin that passes across bottom attack of the suspension spring


    Gianluca

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Thanks again for your help. (And, what does Shutterbug shoot? RF, SLR, MF?)
    Yes :biggrin:
    Gianluca has pegged the spring for you. Without it, the pin just falls out.

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Hi there SanJoseMichael... Why don't you give us an update? Did you get this Midget working? Post a picture of the "after". It would be nice to see another Kundo that got rescued!

    RB

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    Default Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    A really nice clock. This is the last Pendulum locking mechanism that KundO developed. It was locked by lifting the pendulum up and moving the lever under the mvmt Base to the lock position. The Spring and Cup was to hold tension on the suspension spring when the mvmt was moved and the locking mech engaged.

    Enjoy your Torsion Clock. The Domes for this model are slightly larger than the other midgets and do not interchange.

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    Default Re: Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Finally got it done... the .0022" spring was on backorder, and I was slow getting to it... The face was in bad shape, so for now I've just scaled and printed a .jpeg file, printed it on photo printer at the local one-hour photo. Yes, it's not authentic, no, I'm not concerned. I did save it from the heap!
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    This was fun... glass will be hard to find, so she runs naked for now...


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    Default Re: Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    Finally got it done... the .0022" spring was on backorder, and I was slow getting to it... The face was in bad shape, so for now I've just scaled and printed a .jpeg file, printed it on photo printer at the local one-hour photo. Yes, it's not authentic, no, I'm not concerned. I did save it from the heap!

    This was fun... glass will be hard to find, so she runs naked for now...

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails MidgetB&A.jpg   MidgeB&A2.jpg  

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    Default Re: Need ID help: Kundo Junior or Midget? (RE: SanJoseMichael)

    SJM, it looks great. When the emart is back up and running, you could post a request for the dome. Or if you estimate the height required, along with the base diameter, maybe someone watching here might have one.
    The main reason you need one is to keep the dust out, otherwise you will need to clean it almost yearly.
    Your dial looks good with the paper, resembles a much older style.
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