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    Hello all;

    Does anyboy know of clocks that still might sell on ebay that date back in 1700's something?

    I keep wondering if I can ever get lucky enough to break the 1800's boundry. Or even get close to the 00 (1800).

    Also I wonder if ebay listing my have some confusion over century naming maybe...

    A clock from 1800 to 1899 Should be listed as 19th century clock. And a clock from 1700 to 1799 should be listed as 18th century clock.

    Any comments apreciated.
    RJ
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    Default 1700's clocks (RE: RJSoftware)

    Hello all;

    Does anyboy know of clocks that still might sell on ebay that date back in 1700's something?

    I keep wondering if I can ever get lucky enough to break the 1800's boundry. Or even get close to the 00 (1800).

    Also I wonder if ebay listing my have some confusion over century naming maybe...

    A clock from 1800 to 1899 Should be listed as 19th century clock. And a clock from 1700 to 1799 should be listed as 18th century clock.

    Any comments apreciated.
    RJ
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RJSoftware:
    Hello all;

    Does anyboy know of clocks that still might sell on ebay that date back in 1700's something?

    I keep wondering if I can ever get lucky enough to break the 1800's boundry. Or even get close to the 00 (1800).

    Also I wonder if ebay listing my have some confusion over century naming maybe...

    A clock from 1800 to 1899 Should be listed as 19th century clock. And a clock from 1700 to 1799 should be listed as 18th century clock.

    Any comments apreciated.
    RJ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Hi RJ
    Not seen many - they will be quite expensive, as well!
    You have to watch their descriptions as well - some have no idea of age.
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    There is a seller from the Netherlands who has a couple nice clocks from the 18th century (continental), a few French empire from the early 1800's. Thousands of $$$. Every once in a while there is an English bracket clock, or even a lantern that can be found.

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    hello yes i know what you mean they very often get this wrong ..the only working one i have at present is the william gill appox 1732..i have 3 more that need restoring the may be marriages
    it is some times difficult to tell if both the mech and the case is fromj the same period
    regards ray

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    Hi RJ

    Perhaps the easiest way to break the 1800 barrier is to consider and English longcase (tallcase, hall clock, etc.)

    I don't know wha the American market is like but here in Aus it is not hard to find a quite nice clock from around 1775 or so for a reasonable price.

    Due to the size you would have to choose one near you that you could pick up. (I would hate to pay the shipping costs from England to anywhere for such a clock :biggrin:, although many do). The Barber clock you can see in my collection is from around 1790 and cost AU$1100.

    All the best

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    Hi RJ,

    First, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said many people have no concept of what 18C means - i.e. the 1700's. So we tend to put '1700's' instead. I also think many folk don't somehow have a feeling for history - I know if someone comes into the store and I tell them: "This is from about 1780" their eyes glaze over - either because they just don't believe me or because they just have no concept of what life was like so long ago.

    I agree with Peter - you can quite often see plain 18C English country 30-hour longcase clocks on eBay, and I think they are way undervalued.

    Nice clocks, Peter!

    Charles

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    i saw a water clock that puported to be from the 1600's on ebay a while back.. it went for under a grand. it was in pretty nice shape too.
    I feel your pain RJ, I'd like to get my hands on something of that vintage as well... Usually the best bet is to find one with a description that's totally wrong, with no reserve and a low starting bid, and hope no one else sees it. That's how i got my seth thomas triple decker

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    Thanks to all for comments;

    fume_happy;

    Exactly what I mean!

    I wonder sometimes if I should just search for "clock" and check description and just weed through the thousands looking for that one slip-up listing. Might even take me a couple of days and some serious java.

    I understand that there is software for people who sell on ebay that constantly scans for simular selling items and automatically adjust price of sellers item so that the price is constantly the best option to the buyer and yet maintains profit margin. An ebay book seller was telling me this.

    So if they have access via software api (application programmer interface) to ebay facilities, I wonder what features I could add to enhance the searching capabilities?

    What features would you want?

    For me it's not a question of how to do. I have been developing windows shareware for nearly 10 years.

    It is a more a question of what is wanted?

    Curious what keywords you used when you found your triple decker?

    Peter and Chaz; Any particular keywords you prefer? like "English longcase" etc..

    --
    Also I did find a couple of lantern clocks. One was a marrage other unknown.

    Found on Google a ritzy site selling 1700 clocks. (Brian & Joy Loomes) http://www.brianloomes.com/index.html

    I guess for kicks and giggles I could request they send me a catalog with prices. Maybe online.

    I'm not rich other than my name is Richard. So I wonder about keeping an eye out for those uncertain clocks that might be in that age braket. To get them cheap on ebay.

    I guess I really need a book on em.

    I'm just diggin for that ebay jackpot in the sky.......!!!!
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    Hi Rich,

    I bookmarked the grandfather section on eBay and check it every day:

    http://collectibles.listings.ebay.com/Antique-Pre-1930_...ocmdZListingItemList

    Not that, considering where I live, I could necessarily afford to have shipped, let alone buy, one of these. As I said, quite often an English 30-hour appears and to my mind they go pretty cheap. Most of these brass-dial clocks are 18C. Otherwise you may find a nice square dial and movement for, say, $600 for 30-hour or $1000 for 8-day, and make, or have made a case for it in the right style. There are several dealer sites like Loomes, but he will mainly sell to rather specialist UK buyers who are looking for a particular maker or area, so no doubt the prices are high. If you are in the USA you will find lots of these clocks, but without the 'snob' attached. If you buy one on eBay that is close to where you live, so that you can collect it, as we Brits say, you'll be quids in.

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    On the way home from the National at Ft Lauderdale, we stopped at an antique shop to kill some time. While making our way out, I spotted a small 6 footish longcase clock, brass dial. I thought I would give it a courtesy look over. Imagine my surprise, when I discovered it was one of the most important provincial clockmakers in 18th century England.

    I had to have it.

    Rare 17th century Clock

    Cheers, Ralph

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    Good deal, Ralph (without knowing how much you paid for the clock!) - exactly illustrating my point.

    John James Fer(r)o(o)n of Lewes, Sussex, is an early C18 maker. There also seem to be Ferrons in London so he may well have come from there.

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    hello this is a nice clock is the mechanism birdcage? very similar to the william gill i have except your one has asingle hand regards ray

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    Ralph; Mind me asking about how much you paid?
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fume happy:
    i saw a water clock that puported to be from the 1600's on ebay a while back </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Probably made by Pearson, Paige and Jewsbury in Birmingham in the 1920s = they were marked, IIRC, 1780!! Would give them £30 for it.
    AFAIK, no water clocks were made anywhere after medieval times.
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