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    Default Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands?

    Picked this up today for $25. Runs alright and the case is in fantastic condition. One of the hinges as pictured below is quite loose. The dial looks amazing and I haven't one like it yet. I had to have it! However...... the minute hand has been replaced ugh. It's probably impossible to find the original correct? Look at how fancy the hour hand is! Dang!! Thoughts on where I might find one at or am I doomed?
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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Spartcom5)

    I also like the blue numbered dials even though I haven't
    purchased one. They remind me somewhat of the flow blue pottery.

    Nice find. Good luck with finding a minute hand.

    Rob

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: musicguy)

    Keep an eye out for "filigree" watch hands, and you might get lucky. I found a set that matched a smaller pair that were more sinuous, sort of like a section mark (§). Maybe if you can at least get a matched pair you can wink and swap them. I think I got them from Tim Mister at dashto.org - seems likely, anyway. You might also be able to coax that hinge tube to fit a bit more snugly, if you're feeling adventurous. VERY nice find!

    Glen

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: glenhead)

    Yes, that style of dial is very nice indeed, especially when the numerals are of the blue-black coloring.

    I believe that the hands are just gold Louis XIV style (Reference linked page.). If not, they're pretty close, and should be found fairly easily. Good luck.

    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/hands

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: MrRoundel)

    Another, simpler option would be to find an hour hand to match the minute hand for now and let the dial speak for itself. If you finally find a Louis XIV minute hand to fit you can replace the pair.
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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Jerry Treiman)

    This always amazes me. The OP states that the case is in "fantastic condition". then he mentions a loose hinge and shows a pic of a cover almost ready to fall off.

    He has been watching too many ads on the big auction site.

    Tom

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Tom Huber)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Huber View Post
    This always amazes me. The OP states that the case is in "fantastic condition". then he mentions a loose hinge and shows a pic of a cover almost ready to fall off.

    He has been watching too many ads on the big auction site.

    Tom
    I was mainly referring to it cosmetically and that the fact no gold is wearing off aside from the fact the hinge is loose. The problem there is that the bar is bent, just needs to put pushed out and straightened or replaced.

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Tom Huber)

    With respect:

    He also shows pictures of a case on a 112-year-old watch, a case where the engraving is nice and it's still crisp, there's little brassing, the perimeter knurling is in good shape, there aren't many serious dings, and the pendant and bow are in pretty doggoned good shape compared to a lot of the cases out there. Ok, the hinges have been abused, and the inside of the front cover could use a polish. Relative to a lot of the cases out there, it is in fantastic condition. With a little TLC it can be quite a source of pride. Sure, there are better ones out there, too, but there are a heckuva lot more out there that are worse.

    Glen

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: glenhead)

    I can supply an original matching minute hand if you like. PM your mailing address and I'll send one to you.

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: NC Plumber)

    I will stick with my original point. The case is not fantastic. The hinge can be repaired, but will cost. As noted the case is average at best.

    Tom

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Tom Huber)

    Wow. Okey dokey then. Differ'nt strokes!

    Glen

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Spartcom5)

    Regardless of condition it was a good deal for $25. I am interested in the dial however, were these made upon request? I cant find another like it online other than the one Jerry posted. Are they rare by any means? Thanks guys appreciate the help!

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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Spartcom5)

    I think this was a regular dial option. My 1909 Waltham material catalog lists a couple of "Ivory with Blue Figures" dials, in sizes from 12-size to 10-ligne. Yours is a 6-size watch and the one I showed is 0-size. Fancy dials like these were about double the price of a plain dial.
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    Default Re: Waltham blue dial, Elegant! Question on hands? (By: Jerry Treiman)

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