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    Default Seeking Opinions on spring condition

    This comes out of a small visible escapement French clock. My initial feeling is that there's plenty of room left to just smooth and reshape the worn part of the hole. Of course I could also cut it off and re-hole it .... but I cant see where that would be much better. What are your opinions?
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    I would re-hole it. Is there a part of it folded under the spring hole? If so, eventually the barrel hook won't properly catch the spring.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: harold bain)

    No, nothing folded under. I have 5/8" left from the end of the tear to the end of the spring. I think that's about all American springs have. I was thinking of just extending the original shape down to the bottom of the tear.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    Where do you suppose the piece went? Perhaps a previous repairman just cut it off?
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: harold bain)

    I'd cut it off, anneal and re-hole it shuts.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    Is there something with the hook that should be smoothed or addressed to prevent or minimize future damage.?

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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    I would cut off the spring & punch a new hole in fresh material. The pin may also have a deep groove worn into it.
    I wouldn't like those two thin rails that are on each side of the slot which was an oblong hole

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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    I guess someone has to be different. Looks to me like someone deliberately cut that narrow slot to keep it from jumping off the pin. I wouldn't do anything except perhaps smooth it up a bit and try to get the spring straight. Looks like a little cone ing going on here as well. I assume it has been working ok.

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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: R. Croswell)

    Hmmm. I had assumed that it just dug a groove over time ... but the strike side does not show similar wear.
    I'll look at the hook and make sure it's not sharp. Maybe RC is right, and it was done deliberately. Strange. You would expect that kind of wear on the business end, but not on the barrel hook. I'm still pondering. Thanks for all the input!!
    BTW, there was no debris found in the barrel.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    Perhaps a previous repair was done to remove/file some cracking/splitting steel. There appears to be some file marks on the end of the spring. I think I would punch a new hole.


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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: Time After Time)

    One consideration not mentioned so far is the annealed section of the spring. Some springs are softer at the outside end so they catch the barrel pin more easily. If you cut it at the hole and re-hole it, you may be into the harder section of the spring. You would need to anneal the spring so it would be less stiff and bend as it did originally. This may not be a factor in your case. I probably would clean it up and leave it as is.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    I would guess that this hole has broken out several times. I never liked the idea of a "D" shaped hole anyway. This shape puts a lot of bending force at the center, and corners, of the flat side of the D. Much better to have a well centered pear shaped hole. You will have far fewer tearouts.
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: Willie X)

    With the large part toward the hook?
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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: shutterbug)

    I don't think it matters. It's no more work to cut, anneal, and re-hole than it is to clean it up with a file. And vice versa.

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    Default Re: Seeking Opinions on spring condition (By: bangster)

    It seems to me that the hole was originally too large for the hook. I would aneal the spring and drill a new smaller hole a bit larger than the hook and hand file the shape accordingly.

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