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    Default Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find!

    Was at the thrift today and saw these two pocketwatch movements sitting on top of this leather bag, clearly old as well. At first I thought nothing of it because it was two junky looking ladies movements. For $5 though I gave it a shot, at first a common Hampden Diadem. But then the Hamilton.... I looked it up and had never seen a ladies movement worth so much before. Sure, mine is pretty dirty but it's green gunk from inside the leather bag, I don't see any rust. The balance wheel moves but it doesn't run. Is it missing anything? does anyone think it is serviceable? I would LOVE to get this up and running in a wrist case. Truly a great find for $5 especially since I almost passed up on it.
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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find!

    I see it's missing two screws...

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Good luck with getting the green gunk off of both movements.
    Keep us posted as to how it goes.

    Money aside, I like both movements equally.
    The Hampden's dial is much more to my taste.

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartcom5 View Post
    I see it's missing two screws...
    Three screws

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: geo.ulrich)

    Okay I didn't see the one on the very side lol aren't screws cheap to find?

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Nice 17j 0s Hamilton. It does have a lot
    of green "shmutz" on it, hope it cleans up well.


    Rob

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: musicguy)

    Are the missing screws going to be a problem? Also, how hard is it to find a wrist case for this?

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Hi Spartcom5,

    The rim of the balance wheel on the Hamilton is caught behind the cut and a little distorted, but it should come back OK with any luck. That green stuff may have stopped anything getting rusty and should clean up pretty well.

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    Graham

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartcom5 View Post
    Are the missing screws going to be a problem? Also, how hard is it to find a wrist case for this?
    Screws should be easy enough , cases easy also.

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: geo.ulrich)

    Nice find...I found my Lady Hammie in a junk box at a country flea market...it cost a bit more...but not that much.



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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    Verdigris (the green grunge) is very
    time consuming and troublesome to
    remove. An online search will bring
    up methods -- some aren't friendly
    to ferrous parts.

    "how to remove verdigris"

    It's really a question of 'what's your
    time worth'? Counting the number
    of grains in 2 pounds of rice could
    be more fun.
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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: LloydB)

    Here's my Lady Hamilton

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: rrstd)

    Well good news. Dropped it off today with my watchmaker and he's confident he can get it up and running. As for the green stuff, he's dealt with it before and has had great results. Fingers crossed! Now to find a case for it!! Any idea where to look?

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    I'm very lucky... I just remembered I bought this pocket/wrist conversion awhile back at an estate sale for $15 in a period correct cushion case. Turns out it's none other than a 0s size wrist case!!! I have a case for this movement should it clean up and work and it's a correct case for the watch as well!! I'll have to swap the 7 jewel Elgin out but oh well, it's worth it. Here is my watch and here is a 983 wrist watch. Ad showing a 981 in a nickel cushion, exact one I have currently. I'm still going to look for a circular gold filled 0s case, if anyone can help that'd be great.

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    Default Re: Wow..... Surprise very rare Hamilton find! (By: Spartcom5)

    I remember a Swiss colleague telling me when I showed him my lady hamilton "that movement is the PAtek Philippe of America"
    Jeffrey P. Hess, collector, historian, writer, CEO Ball WATCH USA

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