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    Default Grandfather's Pocket Watch

    I would like to get some information (e.g., date and place of manufacture) on this pocket watch that belonged to my grandfather. Inside the back, which unscrews from the watch proper, is the inscription FORTUNE WARRANTED A.W.C. Co. 20 YEARS 514444 07. On the watch proper is inscribed BEDFORDE W Co 15 JEWELS & ADJ.
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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch

    I'd say, with a high degree of confidence, that it is of Swiss origin. The finish reminds me of a "Majestic" that I gave my dad years ago. The plate designs don't look like any American watch I've seen, and the finish looks Swiss.

    The case was made by the American Watch Case Company, and bears the mark (winged wheel) that I usually see on Canadian-market watches. As far as the date, I'd guess that it's anywhere from 1910 to 1940. Hopefully someone else can get you something more definitive on the manufacturer and the year made. The Swiss movements can be tough. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch

    I believe this is a Swiss watch
    https://jewelry.ha.com/itm/timepiece...171150-71064.s

    *****EDIT****Sorry I must have posted at the same time as MrRoundel above


    Rob

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: musicguy)

    Moving to the European Pocket Watch forum for better coverage.

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Dave Coatsworth)

    Thank you all for the great information and so promptly too.

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Malcolm9517)

    Here is some information about the American Watch-Case Company in Toronto: http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?tit..._Watch_Case_Co

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Dave Coatsworth)

    MrRoundel. On closer examination it does indeed indicate SWISS MADE on the edge of the face below the "seconds" hand. at first I mcould not make it out with the naked eye.
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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Malcolm9517)

    Thanks stewey. That is great info to have particularly as it makes reference to the FORTUNE brand and the wheeled wings that appear on this watch.

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Malcolm9517)

    A little information here; however, the photos are not viewable: http://www.eluminary.org/en/QnA/Look...ocks,_Watches)
    And here: http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?title=Goldsmiths

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: stewey)

    Malcolm 9517,
    I have a copy of a letter from Mr. P. Kushner who was a CP rail time inspector, who had remarked that there was some Bedford watches were being used in the western region of CP rail, although these mentioned watches were 21 jewel lever set watches adjusted to rail requirements. I am led to believe the fortune case was a Canadian case made by the American watch case co. in Canada. The process at the time was if a watch movement came to Canada cased, there was an added tax that had to be paid, so quite often a watch coming into Canada was uncased and cased here.
    The Bedford watch Company was a Swiss maker. I do not think that the 15 jewel watch would have made it into rail service anywhere in north America.
    Bill

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: stewey)

    Great info. Thanks again stewey.

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Bill Manders)

    Excellent info Bill. In all the info I have received I find it interesting that "Bedford" is spelled without the "e", yet on the watch face and inside on the movement itself it is spelled "Bedforde". Does anyone out here know how that came about? Is that perhaps Swiss for Bedford?

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Malcolm9517)

    Bedfordshire is an English county, county town Bedford
    I had never heard of Bedforde until this post

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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Les harland)

    Sorry, I spoke before I looked also, the Bedford used on some CPR lines was BEDFORD, not BEDFORDE, so I recant the info I gave earlier.
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    Default Re: Grandfather's Pocket Watch (By: Bill Manders)

    I think or thought Bedford and Bedforde are the same companies. The watch in question would not be used for railway service, but still a nice watch and a family heirloom.

    Here is some misinformation. This person is stating a 12 sz watch was aproved for Canadian railways and Elco is the same name, maker.
    http://www.eluminary.org/en/QnA/Look...ocks,_Watches)
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