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    Default NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue

    I was hoping you guys could help me figure out what to do about the fan drive
    problem on this New Haven shelf clock.



    What was in the space between those 2 small gears that would drive
    the fan?


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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: John P)

    John, it looks like someone has changed the arbor. They either replaced it with the one in the photo or they removed the pinion and installed those two gears. It should have a lantern pinion with pins which mesh with the wheel. Unusual movement for me, so I could be totally wrong. Maybe someone else will shed more light.
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: wow)

    Not sure this helps but here's a New Haven of a slightly different configuration. (Crusty old movement prior to cleaning) Looks like that arbor has been changed to me.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Dave T)

    Update, Just found a clock like yours on the net. Looks like yours is correct, but appears to be missing the fan.
    If you search for New Haven movements on the famous for sale site you can see it.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Dave T)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave T View Post
    Update, Just found a clock like yours on the net. Looks like yours is correct, but appears to be missing the fan.
    If you search for New Haven movements on the famous for sale site you can see it.
    Search for, "Weird Antique NEW HAVEN Clock Movement" on that 'famous for sale site' shows one with the fan and that same soldered-on pinion.

    John, is it possible that you have the wrong arbor installed to line up with the fan pinion? Obviously one of the two arbors shown is incorrect.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: R. Croswell)

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Croswell View Post
    Search for, "Weird Antique NEW HAVEN Clock Movement" on that 'famous for sale site' shows one with the fan and that same soldered-on pinion.

    John, is it possible that you have the wrong arbor installed to line up with the fan pinion? Obviously one of the two arbors shown is incorrect.

    RC
    So, RC, I looked at the one on the web and I still don't understand why there are two gears on the fly arbor. Any idea?
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: John P)

    Someone's strange idea for a repair. Need to find a replacement assembly.
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Willie X)

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie X View Post
    Someone's strange idea for a repair. Need to find a replacement assembly.
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    I'm with you Willie. I have worked on a lot of New Haven movements and I have never seen a factory set up that looked remotely like that. I'd be looking for a fan and arbor from another New Haven movement to replace what the OP has.
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: John P)

    How about making a new lantern pinion? Seems like an interesting challenge.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: John P)

    I would just put another fly and arbor on from my bone pile. I still don't understand the two gears posted by the OP and the same two shown in the photo on eBay. Not a coincidence.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: wow)

    I get the feeling it was an attempt to create a lantern
    pinion. One could solder trunnions pins between the leaves
    of the pinions.
    Just a guess.
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Tinker Dwight)

    Just my opinion but looking at the one on that selling site makes me think that the one closest to the fly is to prevent the fly from being moved closer to that other gear. That fly has notches in it so it misses nearby gears but if that fly was able to slide even closer to the gear than the fly would most likely hit something then. That is my only thought as to why the 2 gears basically next to each other

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Jasons34)

    Jason, That makes a lot of sense to me too. Not sure why they would use a gear as a stop for the arbor, but it would work, (to keep the fan from sliding). A lot of arbors have a notch in it to provide a lock to hold the fan. But this one doesn't.

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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: Dave T)

    I wonder if the two gears are supposed to be one, and they are just separated. Odd configuration though. I've never seen one with gears.
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    Default Re: NEW HAVEN CLOCK fan issue (By: John P)

    Maybe it's the same movement.
    Willie X

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