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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: MrRoundel)

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRoundel View Post
    ... Jerry, do you have any idea of what percentage of those round 7 1/2 ligne movements had the patent setting mechanism? Mine has what looks like the same setting design as your gold octagonal pendant watch (Dubois?). Cheers.
    All of the movements were constructed the same and require a special stem, but very few had cases with the pin-set part of the mechanism. These were made, by a variation in the stem profile, to function with or without the case pin. (That little octagonal gem is in a case by H.W. Matalene, but a great many of the wristwatches were also cased by Depollier).
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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: musicguy)

    Quote Originally Posted by musicguy View Post
    RE: "The platinum rectangular watch with diamonds and black onyx"

    That watch is spectacular. I can't believe (at those prices) that there
    are too many of them around. I think I've seen you post a photo of it in the past.
    You have a very nice collection.

    Rob
    Thanks, Rob. Both of those watches were cased by H.W. Matalene for Waltham. Most of his productions were unique, as I believe that rectangular watch was.
    As I have mentioned elsewhere, this casemaker (Matalene) has been a subject of research for me for, literally, decades. I am working on a book about his work and his relationship with Waltham.
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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: Jerry Treiman)

    Thanks for the clarification/information, Jerry. Interesting stuff.

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: musicguy)

    Thank you to all who contributed to this thread. It has been helpful and informative.

    I am still in awe of the technology that was available to produce these small (some tiny!) ladies watches.

    Regards, Rodney Boatman

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: Rodney Boatman)

    I collect them, have over 100, from the first run lady elgin 10s to the end of production 9XX series from elgin beating at 21,600BPH.

    where else can you pick up a 14k Solid for $3.75 ? you guys that don't collect ladies, suits me fine.

    what do I like about them ? I think I'm the only one currently that has the complete Elgin parisienne line which is what got me started collecting watches, no other watch line has as much deco or color in their design.

    I also like finding the pairings, Lord & Lady Elgin Ascots, Helene & Holcomb, Lord Elgin Black Knight & Lady Elgin Midnight, Lord Elgin Eldorado & Lady Elgin Eldora, Lord Elgin Clubman & Lady Elgin Clubwoman to name a few.

    Also, the technology as you have said, it cost more to produce, demanded higher technology and resources in their manufacture and most of the time, the Ladies models sold for a lot more than the mens of the same year. In looking at Elgin during the 50's, theres 4 mens models I know of that sold over the $175 mark yet the ladies models of the same years, countless models that sold over $200.

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: diveboy)

    wanted to share this one:intended as a birthday present for my daughter,she´ll be 21 in September:a 15jewel Bulowa in a chromed case with an adjustable clip strap.The watch was pretty cheap,but the repair was appropriate for what was done to it.Hope she´ll like it!
    Burkhard

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: Burkhard Rasch)

    I will add another "stitch" to this thread and show a picture of a Waltham ladies watch I obtained on EBay. It has a nice case with small diamonds - my picture is a bit dark.

    The movement is a Model 450 but the serial number begins with a D and so I have not been able to look it up exactly. It is a 17 jewel and I think the grade is 467. It is probably a mid '30s watch.

    I actually took it apart and cleaned it and got it back together. It runs but is difficult to set.

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: Rodney Boatman)

    I collect them, have over 100, from the first run lady elgin 10s to the end of production
    9XX series from elgin beating at 21,600BPH.

    diveboy
    post some photos of your collection.


    this one:intended as a birthday present for my daughter
    Burkhard Rasch I hope your daughter likes it, it's a fine watch.




    Rob

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    Default Re: Vintage Small Women's Watches (By: musicguy)

    Rob,

    Browse my instagram feed.

    https://www.instagram.com/elgindownunder/

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