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    Default Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892!

    I've wanted one for a while but around here they don't come up very often and when they do the prices are pretty high.

    Found one today in excellent condition for a very good price. It's missing the regulator arm, but otherwise very nice for the price.

    Serial number is 11034306 with 19 jewels and diamond end stone. The case shows much wear so it clearly was carried but doesn't reflect the condition of the movement itself.

    Here's a link to the Pocket Watch Database with the pertinent info:

    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/sear...ltham/11034306

    I posted a few quick pics. Feeling pretty happy right now

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892!

    Nice find. I don't mind buying ones that need a
    little TLC. The price is usually good, and the process
    of fixing them up is enjoyable. I've bought a few with
    ugly cracked crystals, but the movement and dials are
    in good shape.




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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: musicguy)

    According to the NAWCC site, it came from a run of 800 varying from 19-23 jewels. The part number of the regulator in steel is 1672 and gilt is 1673, don't know which one is correct.

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: richiec)

    Quote Originally Posted by musicguy View Post
    Nice find. I don't mind buying ones that need a little TLC. The price is usually good, and the process of fixing them up is enjoyable. I've bought a few with ugly cracked crystals, but the movement and dials are in good shape.Rob
    Very much agree Rob. I've picked up some nice movements that had yellowed plastic crystals, or worn out cases, watches that people passed over without checking out the movement.

    Didn't their mothers ever tell them it's what's on the inside that counts?

    Quote Originally Posted by richiec View Post
    According to the NAWCC site, it came from a run of 800 varying from 19-23 jewels. The part number of the regulator in steel is 1672 and gilt is 1673, don't know which one is correct.
    Thanks much for this info richiec The numbers will make the hunt much easier now.

    The website Model 92 has a great page about regulators:

    http://www.model92.com/Home/movement...ons/regulators

    I think I'll need the one shown in photo 1 in the link.

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Paul Raposo)

    Nice buy Paul

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Paul Raposo)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Raposo View Post
    I've wanted one for a while but around here they don't come up very often ...
    Congratulations Paul! Recently finding an 1892 Vanguard was a bit of a milestone achievement for me too

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Mark UK)

    Nice Vanguard. Good on ya'. My 18s Vanguard is the second pocket watch I ever owned, and it's a nice one as well. They're very solid watches, and are quite beautiful as well. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that 19J Vanguards are much more scarce than 21 and 23J examples. It's nice that they used the diamond end-stone on the 19J as well. Enjoy. Cheers.

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: MrRoundel)

    Quote Originally Posted by PJQL View Post
    Nice buy Paul Piers
    Thank you Piers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark UK View Post
    Congratulations Paul! Recently finding an 1892 Vanguard was a bit of a milestone achievement for me too
    Thanks Mark. The last one I saw locally was four years ago and the seller was asking $500 CAD, so this one was a pretty exciting find

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRoundel View Post
    Nice Vanguard. Good on ya'. My 18s Vanguard is the second pocket watch I ever owned, and it's a nice one as well. They're very solid watches, and are quite beautiful as well. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that 19J Vanguards are much more scarce than 21 and 23J examples. It's nice that they used the diamond end-stone on the 19J as well. Enjoy. Cheers.
    Thank you MrRoundel. From what I've read the 19 jewel does seem to be a bit harder to find. I didn't even realize the Walthams used diamond end stone. I tried to keep a poker face when I saw the movement but I was looking like this all the way home

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Paul Raposo)

    Paul,
    Very nice pick, the Vanguard 92's are in my mind the nicest, best damascened, watches you can find. The fact that it is a 19 jewel is all the better, as there was fewer of them than either 21 or 23 jeweled ones.
    I have a stable of about 6 vanguards in the 92 models, and love every one of them, they just about all have slightly different damascening patterns on them.
    Great watches, and great pick for you.
    Bill

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Bill Manders)

    Thank you Bill. For me the 92 and the CPR 92 Walthams are mythical watches that I knew about but rarely saw. I didn't see one of these up close until 1996, after collecting watches since 1989. It's nice to finally be able to have one. Having six in your collection is pretty awesome

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Paul Raposo)

    According to the lookup ( http://nawccinfo.nawcc.org/LookupSN.php ) the 1892 Vanguard production totals are somewhere in the region of -
    17J 2057
    19J 5390
    21J 34759
    23J 60024

    So yes, higher jewel count = more common for this model.

    Photos - my 19J example.
    One day I hope to pick up one of the 17Js that some of the guys here are often enthusing about.

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: topspin)

    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    So yes, higher jewel count = more common for this model.
    Great info topspin, thank you for posting this

    These movements really are very pretty and I think a good example to show the interest in pocket watch collecting.

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: Paul Raposo)

    Paul,
    I do not have a 92 CPR, but have a 83 CPR, but to make up for that I do have a 92 CRTS of course in the 17 jewel model.
    They are great watches. One day I will have a 92 CPR, I will just keep looking.
    Bill

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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892!

    topspin wrote "Photos - my 19J example. "

    Beautiful.



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    Default Re: Picked up a Waltham Vanguard 1892! (By: musicguy)

    Paul and All,
    Lovely watch. I particularly like the 1892 model and am lucky to have acquired 8 of them over the last 10 years. Last month I managed to acquire a 19j Vanguard off ebay at a price that made it worth while paying the extra 20% import tax. I have been looking for this model for some time as I have a 21j and a 23j. Those that have come on sale here in Uk have all been in the £200.00 plus price range and, all up, I paid considerably less than this. I attach photos of this recent acquisition.
    In Uk there is a saying that you wait for a bus and it does not come on time then two or three come at the same time shortly thereafter. Well after having blown my watch budget on the Vanguard I spotted on ebay a badly described 1892 Royal Htg in a 14 Ct GF engine turned case, but for sale here in UK (hence no additional tax etc). Having this afternoon won the watch for the same as I paid before tax for the Vanguard I will now have to find a suitable excuse to justify to my wife this over expenditure of my hobby budget. But the acquisition of this rather scarcer model will make any "pain" worthwhile. If of interest I will post photos once I have the watch.
    Allan
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