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    Default Help identifying this clock

    Found this interesting small wall clock. Appreciate any help in identification.

    Thanks

    Kevin
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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock

    I suspect that this clock does not have a movement made of wood, and I am moving the thread to the Clocks General forum.

    The clock would appear at first blush to be oriental, or possibly German made for the oriental market. But could we see a picture of the movement to make sure one way or the other?
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    The bottom characters are Chinese. Most likely the model number.
    I can read the numbers but not the rest:

    ?12124512?

    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    Tinker: Is there no end to your knowledge? You are quite impressive!

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    The pinned hands means that it is likely more than 40 years
    old.
    You can remove the clock by undoing the thumb nuts that you can just
    see under the right and left side of the movement.
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinker Dwight View Post
    The bottom characters are Chinese. Most likely the model number.
    I can read the numbers but not the rest:

    ?12124512?

    Tinker Dwight

    I believe the numbers are 33453.

    JTD

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: JTD)

    The motives on the pendulum bob are Jugendstil. That should place it between end of 19th and WWI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTD View Post
    I believe the numbers are 33453.

    JTD
    Yep, your right. 33453
    For what it is worth, it is the model number of the
    case. At least that is what I get from my mother-in-law.
    According to her, there is no indication of the manufacture.
    There might be something on the movement or inside the case.
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    The pendulum style and pinned hands suggest to me German.
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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: lpbp)

    Quote Originally Posted by lpbp View Post
    The pendulum style and pinned hands suggest to me German.
    It could be German, but definitely sold in China. The sticker rough translation is a model
    or style of clock. It talks about the type of carving like it was a model number.
    At least that is what on MiL said.
    For what it is worth, the top 4 characters are either the name of the company
    that sold the clock or the ones that made the clock.
    ( I tend to favor it as the name of the manufacture but it could be either ).
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    Thanks for all the replies. I'll see about removing the clock and checking the movement.

    Best,

    Kevin

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    Thanks Tinker, will do that.

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    I removed the front and checked the movement. Here are some photos. The only marks are a number 2 and a S.
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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: goodeagle)

    I have been following this waiting for more photos. The logo is Seikosha and the back label is typical Japanese. The movement and style is very much German.
    Seikosha and Germany had close ties and the movement and pendulum may have been imported into Japan by Seikosha along with the pendulum, then cased for sale all over Orient.
    Would be interested in any history and where it was located.
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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: Charles E. Davis)

    Unfortunately don't have any history. Picked it up at an estate auction. Looked very unusual in case design. Interestingly, they sold it as non-working for parts. Hung it up, wound it and it's been running great since. Do you feel this dates from the early days of Seikosha...c1890's?

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    Default Re: Help identifying this clock (By: goodeagle)

    I finally found some one I can be with who can answer my questions in Chinese and Japanese. He was born in Taiwan at the time it was under the control of the Japanese. This happened from 1895 to 1945. He came to the US as a college student and made his career here. So he is tri-lingual at least in reading of Japanese, Chinese and English.
    Shen he looked at the back pasted label he wrote this response.
    "The left hand side two characters mean 'Registered or Certified" and the right hand side two characters mean 'Craftsman or Craftsmanship'. And the vertical characters mean 'Number 33453'. All these characters emphasize the authentic product made by a certified # 33453 craftsman (with remarkable craftsmanship)."
    I have often seen the same or similar letters on either side of a trade mark to mean registered trademark. But I hae never seen the vertical numbers berfore.
    Charlie Davis, La Verne, CA
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