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    Default New member-new clock

    Hi, I am a new member, so I hope I am doing this right!
    I have just purchased a new grandfather clock from my friend and I would like to find a bit more details about the clock, can anybody help please.
    I will attach a few pics for identification purposes.
    Regards MC.
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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    Welcome to the message board.
    It looks to be a German clock.
    It could be a case made in Germany or in the USA.
    Is there anything written on the back of the case?
    Having three chains, it is a chiming clock.
    Is there anything written on the weights?
    Without seeing the movement and what might be written
    on the back, not much more.

    I just noticed the lion.
    The movement was made by Uhreafbrik Muhlheim, Muller & Co.
    It is no older than 1926 and looks to be late 20's to early 30's.
    There are those that can use the serial number to date it.
    That is if it has a serial number. It seems they stopped using
    them in 1932.
    Tinker Dwight
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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    Welcome to the message board. Take a look at these two threads:
    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?8...on-on-the-face
    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?46845-Lion-logo

    David, Owen.or

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    Hi, thanks for your prompt info.
    I live in Malta and the clock was bought locally by my friend's grandfather, it was given to his daughter, my friend's aunt as a gift.
    In Malta we call these clocks, the 'LION CLOCK', hence the mark. On the dial is also marked 'MADE IN GERMANY'.
    It chimes every quarter hour and includes the hour chimes also, so if it's 10:15, one set of three chimes and ten dongs. I hope I have explained this clearly.
    I will try and look for some more info on the clock and case, maybe that will help.
    The movement is by Muller but I am a bit confused as it seems like the company has had three different logos.
    Thanks again for all your help.
    Regards MC.

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    Yes, the company (Uhrenfabrik Mühlheim, Müller & Co.) did have several logos. Many firms had more than one logo during their life, not unusual. Don't be confused, their is nothing strange about this.

    JTD

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    I've never run into one of these that strikes the hour every 15 minutes. Does the weight on the left drop much faster than the other two? This would indicate that it should not strike every 15 minutes for the hour.
    harold bain, Member ch 33
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    let me "tock" to it"

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: harold bain)

    As Harold mentions, the weights should go down at the same rate
    ( or close to ). If you have to wind the strike more often than
    the other two, it would indicate that the clock needs some adjustment.
    Typically the strike is only at the hour.
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: JTD)

    The bit that confused me about the different logos is that I would have expected that it was changes after a certain amount of years and so I could roughly tell the age of the clock. Is it that the company was making clocks with different logo at the same time of year?

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    Harold, it chimes the quarters and the hours at the same time. I will have to check the weights and see if the go down differently, in time as I only had the clock for two days.
    I will also try and attach a clip of the chimes.

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    The company had various lion logos registered from about 1920 onwards, some had the tails pointing down, some curling up, some had paws in different positions etc. and so on. Registering another logo did not necessarily mean that they stopped using the previous one.

    According to mikrolisk, your lion mark was registered about 1926. Schmid's 'Lexikon der Deutschen Uhrenindustrie' shows another lion, with his tail curling up, used about 1930. This does not mean that the one on your clock was not used as soon as the other one was registered. If the company had a lot of parts with one lion logo on them they would go using them - it was still their trade mark, which was the important thing.

    So mid 1920s to mid 1930s is pretty much the best we can say for the date.

    JTD

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: JTD)

    Interesting and well explained. Thanks for clearing that one out.
    I will speak to my friend and try and confirm the chimes, see if it was like that all the time. Another thing which I find unusual is that when it chimes on say, 12:30pm, it chimes two sets for the quarters and twelve dongs for the hours. I was expecting to hear just the chimes and no dongs. Unless it does that at 12:30am, which I was not awake to notice.
    I thank you all, again for your help and info, I really appreciate it.

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: MCmalta)

    If it is not supposed to strike at every quarter, the strike weight will drop 4 times faster than the other two.
    harold bain, Member ch 33
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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: harold bain)

    Do note that the strike weight drops a little faster when doing 12 strikes than
    when doing 1 strike. It should still average the same over 24 hours.
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: Tinker Dwight)

    That tail tells the tale.

    Ron

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    Default Re: New member-new clock (By: Rockin Ronnie)

    The clock weights go down equally, slight variation as it tocks longer hours. I tried to upload anMP3 file of the chimes but I could not manage, maybe MP3 files not supported?
    I was reading about setting the clock up correctly and it seems that there is an app for that, 'ClockMaster', what would you suggest as I am still a novice?

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