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    Default Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day

    Sadly the case is about 60 years later, but the clock is interesting and made 6 miles down the road.

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: novicetimekeeper)

    Not been a great week for originality round here. Decided to start work on the centre seconds, I don't intend to have it restored just yet, just clean up the dial and get it all working. It is going to be in somebody else's house as I have no room for it and they would like it to tick and strike.

    Looking at it closely now I can see this dial and movement do not belong together, so if Thos Phippard was responsible for the dial he did not make the movement. I have never seen a centre seconds in the flesh before so that was interesting, I had not really thought about the escape wheel being in the centre to achieve it.

    The movement has some nice detailing suggesting quality and was originally 5 pillar but the fifth has been robbed out. It also appears to have mismatched great wheels, or at least greatwheel spools.

    The date ring is by the same engraver as the chapter ring but the wheel to drive it is missing.

    You can see the dial plate seems to have been modified to accept the chapter ring though it is a good fit for the spandrels.





    The seconds hand is missing, presumably this is attached to a pipe that pushes on the end of the escapewheel arbour, however once you have done that how do you secure the minute hand which currently is held on by a pin.

    What is the function of those dogs on the hour tube? I thought initially it was a pin but the centre hole is clear so preumably they were there when it had a centre seconds hand.
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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: novicetimekeeper)

    I doubt it will ever warrant the expense of being restored to cenmtre seconds but at least it got the dial done.

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: novicetimekeeper)

    Looks good!
    Have you resilvered it by yourself?

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: ballistarius)

    Quote Originally Posted by ballistarius View Post
    Looks good!
    Have you resilvered it by yourself?

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    Thanks. Yes, I do the dials myself. This is the first one where I have finished the silvering with renaissance wax, it was a recommendation at a BHI talk recently, I'm not 100% convinced, it seems to attract dust but it looks fine.
    Nick, lots to learn, late starter.

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: novicetimekeeper)

    Congrats! The chapter ring and the disc really look like new
    Have you had to refill the numerals in any dial? Whatt have you used for that?

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: ballistarius)

    no it's the original wax.
    Nick, lots to learn, late starter.

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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day

    Thanks Nick,
    I've bought a repro pewter/tin chapter ring for my early 18th Neuchatel movement. I have to fill al the sunken parts...
    I think I'll ask in the tablet/dial section
    A quick glance and I've reached this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpy5...8#t=492.761339
    Perhaps there are better ones, but my lower jaw is still down...
    Aitor
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    Default Re: Thomas Phippard, Poole, Mid 18thC Centre seconds 8 day (By: ballistarius)

    Love the "early model" E-clip holding the gathering pallet
    David

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