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    Default Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks

    Can someone direct me to threads that have discussed these clocks? They're the ones with external weights that fly around, wrap on uprights, then unwind.

    Thanks...Kurt

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: KurtinSA)

    if you put ignatz into the search box a few come up.
    Nick, lots to learn, late starter.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: novicetimekeeper)

    Thanks...I did run across that name but wasn't sure if it was the right one. I have the opportunity to look at one in the next few days. Looks like it just like this one:

    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?1...e-I-got-for-me

    Kurt

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: KurtinSA)

    I think they are fascinating.
    Nick, lots to learn, late starter.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: novicetimekeeper)

    They are a novelty clock. They are not particularly good time
    keepers.
    Wind once a day and set once a day.
    I'd love to have one, myself.
    Tinker Dwight

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: Tinker Dwight)

    There is a wooden kit wall clock that I have seen with this escapement, it is much more open and I would really like one of those.
    Nick, lots to learn, late starter.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: KurtinSA)

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtinSA View Post
    Thanks...I did run across that name but wasn't sure if it was the right one. I have the opportunity to look at one in the next few days. Looks like it just like this one:

    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?1...e-I-got-for-me

    Kurt
    As already mentioned, what you are referring to are typically called "Ignatz" clocks.

    Charles Terwilliger, Jr. founded a company called Horolovar. They had reproductions of the Ignatz and the Briggs rotary pendulum clock made in Germany about 40 years ago I believe. Mr. Terwilliger passed away in the late 1980's, but the company was sold and I believe it is still in business. Please oh please correct me if I have any of this wrong.

    Virtually all of the Ignatz or "flying pendulum" clocks offered today are these later Horolovar reproductions made in Germany. Often they can be found with the original boxes. Their prices have really dropped, too. So, only buy a near pristine example and if possible with the original box. They're out there.

    The "real" flying pendulum clocks were produced by New Haven in the 1880's and they were offered in nickel plated metal cased versions as well as wood cased one. In my experience, the most common was the "No. 5107". The one you're interested in I suspect is a reproduction of this model.

    Every so often, the "real McCoy" pops up at auction. For example, R.O. Schmitt has had a few over the years. Search their archives for examples.

    Interestingly the French made flying pendulum novelty clocks (as well as rotary pendulum ones similar to those produced by Welch).

    For a very nice discussion of the Ignatz and other forms of the flying pendulum clock, see this Bulletin article written by none other than Mr. Terwilliger himself: http://www.nawcc.org/images/stories/.../82/82_650.pdf

    Also see Tran's New Haven book, page 408, figures 1657 to 1660.

    If you search the MB, you will find more information about Horolovar Company as well as about these rather ubiquitous repros.

    RM

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: rmarkowitz1_cee4a1)

    They may have been referred to as "Flying Ball" clocks, as well.
    Living life at eight beats per minute.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: MartinM)

    I had my first one about 40 years ago when I managed an optical lab. I lost it in a fire. Now I have two of them, and enjoy the novelty method of time keeping. They are a pain to adjust for timing!
    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: shutterbug)

    a flying pendulum clock,allthough not an Ignatz http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?4...-to-Scottie-TX

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: Burkhard Rasch)

    I got a look at the clock. It appears to be one of the Horolovar Co. models based upon the stamp on the back. It's a little rich for my blood...if prices go down on the last day of the estate sale and it's still there, I might give it another look. It does say "as-is" so no telling if it works.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: KurtinSA)

    They come up on Ebay from time to time.
    A man with a clock always knows the time. A man with two clocks is never sure.

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: shutterbug)

    I bought some items from a clock repairman going out of business and managed to get a Horolovar Flying Ignatz clock, however it's all in parts. The box says "incomplete" but not sure what that applies to...at a minimum, the side handles are missing.

    I see the PDF file reference above which has some parts breakdown of the clock. Does anyone remember seeing some posts which show the movement and how things go together? This will challenge me to try and get this together.

    Thanks...Kurt

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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks (By: KurtinSA)

    Come on Kurt. How long have you been here. Where are the pictures.
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    Default Re: Info on Flying Pendulum Clocks

    Got me, Tinker!! Let me get those together.

    This is what I got.

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