Thread: Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2
05-11-2016, 01:02 PM #1
Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2
I have 2 boxed examples of Hamilton Traffic specials.
I found in a 1934 Sales catalog. They sold basically the same watch as a Traffic Special 1 or 2 up until 1955. These watches date to 1929
The first one comes in a cardboard Hamilton square box with the Logo on it and stamped with the generic info for dial & case and the serial & case numbers written it.The case doesn't have Hamilton inside the back like the 2nd one does and it is 10KT White Gold Filled.
The box says Dial No. 98 and this is the same dial that Hamilton called a #024 in 1940 and used on the Military 992B ?
The second one comes in a fabric coated pull apart box with the end label showing the movement and case numbers. The case looks like a Model 16 but it is a traffic Special case and it 10KT Yellow Gold Filled.
They were replaced with the Traffic Special 3 or 4 in 1966 Sales catalog and they had Traffic Special on the dials. The sales catalogs just say 17Jewel movement and don't say anything about the movements being Swiss at the time?Jim Haney
05-11-2016, 07:11 PM #2
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Re: Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2 (By: Jim Haney)The sales catalogs just say 17Jewel movement and don't say anything about the movements being Swiss at the time?
thanks for posting these earlier Traffic Specials... In my opinion, the second one posted there, the case was used in the 40's on the 992B and from descriptions uncovered, I think is the model B case. Empty Boxes have been seen, and watches have been seen, but not together... yet.
Your two was the 'last improvement' for the 974 before its cancellation from sales.
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05-15-2016, 05:24 PM #3
Re: Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2 (By: terry hall)
Jim, the box on your early example lists the dial as a "No. 98". It looks identical to the 024 HA that came later. Does it appear in hand to be exactly like the later dial?
Also interesting to note is that the Sears(?) sales literature describes other available dials as porcelain.....
05-16-2016, 10:28 AM #4
Re: Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2 (By: Tref)
The sales literature on Terry's example is from a Hamilton Time Book and mine is from a 1934 Hamilton Sales Catalog.
The dial is the same as the later 024 which has a blueprint date of 1-17-41.That blueprint says use the same dies for the outertrack as the 524 dial and I looked at that blueprint and it is dated 5-24-33. I don't see any dial blueprint earlier than 1933, so I would summarize that was the year Hamilton decided to start up a dial dept. and make them by blueprints.
The No. 98 was made in 1929 or before and apparently before blueprints existed.
To answer your question the dials are the same.Jim Haney
05-16-2016, 11:13 AM #5
Re: Hamilton Traffic Specials 1 & 2 (By: Jim Haney)
Thanks Jim. That clears up a couple of points, and I like learning new things!
So now we can see another example of Hamilton referring to their dials as porcelain. I know that's not the topic of this thread, but it has come up in the past regarding dials. Also, the fact that the Traffic Specials sometimes used a dial that went on to later face other grades is also an interesting side note. As is your observation that once upon a time they appeared to have produced the dials without blueprints.
I went back through the sales literature I have, and in one from 1935 or 36 I believe, on Page 13, for the TS it says "Also available with selection of silver and porcelain enamel dials." (italics mine) I hadn't noticed that before. In yet another, from 1934 I think, on Page G it says "Also available with regular railroad dials". The second watch you've pictured certainly illustrates that!
Thank you for presenting these.
Terry I'm still actively documenting 992B's. When I come across a boxed example of a Model B I'll surely post pictures here. It's just a matter of time.
05-16-2016, 09:23 PM #6
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