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Steve Maddox
04-08-2002, 07:51 AM
Several recent topics about two-tone movements on the Chapter #149 section have inspired me to share some pictures of a few of mine. My sincere thanks go out to Tom McIntyre for generously hosting the images shown below. I strongly encourage those interested in sharing images from their collections to send them to Tom, and allow him to host them!

An Aurora, 18s, 15j, HC, LS, just a few numbers away from one posted the other day by Greg Frauenhoff. Greg told me that all the known examples of these fall within a group of 150 serial numbers: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM001TWOTON~1.JPG

A Rockford, 18s, 17j, HC, LS, about which I haven't been able to find much information. If anyone knows the grade of this movement and the estimated production, I'd appreciate hearing from them. It's not listed in Ehrhardt's "Rockford" book: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM002TWOTON~2.JPG

A Rockford, 18s,15j, HC, LS, Grade 84. Total production is supposed to be 6,900: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM003TWOTON~3.JPG

A Columbus, 18s, 16j, OF, LS, "Railway King." This movement looks almost exactly like the one below, which is the HC version of the same thing: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM004TWOTON~4.JPG

A Columbus, 18s, 16j, HC, LS, "Railway King." This movement is almost identical to the OF one above. The only difference I notice is that the one above has gilded plate screws, while the ones in this one are polished steel: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM005TWOTON~5.JPG

A Rockford, 18s, 15j, OF, LS/PS, Grade 87. Serial number lists indicate that 5,500 of these were produced. Note the lever set/pendant set option: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM006TWOTON~6.JPG

A Hamilton, 18s, 21j, OF, LS, "940." I know they're not extremely uncommon, but can anyone tell me how many two-tone 940 models Hamilton made? http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM007TWOTON~7.JPG

And finally, an Illinois, 16s, 23j, HC, LS, "Sangamo," which was shown previously in a thread that was subsequently deleted. Ehrhardt's "Illinois" book indicates that 700 of these were produced, but I'm not sure if all of them were two-tones or not. I believe that Terry Hall indicated that he had one of these that wasn't a two-tone, but I'm not sure if it was an open face (model 5) or a hunting case (model 4). http://members.aol.com/lrhorology/SangamoMvmt.JPG

As exemplified by the Sangamo in the image above, many Illinois watches have pink colored two-tone work. Was this characteristic unique to Illinois products, or did other companies make some models with pink colored two-tone work as well?

I hope everyone enjoys the pictures, and any additional information will be greatly appreciated!


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Steve Maddox
President, NAWCC Chapter #62
North Little Rock, Arkansas

Steve Maddox
04-08-2002, 07:51 AM
Several recent topics about two-tone movements on the Chapter #149 section have inspired me to share some pictures of a few of mine. My sincere thanks go out to Tom McIntyre for generously hosting the images shown below. I strongly encourage those interested in sharing images from their collections to send them to Tom, and allow him to host them!

An Aurora, 18s, 15j, HC, LS, just a few numbers away from one posted the other day by Greg Frauenhoff. Greg told me that all the known examples of these fall within a group of 150 serial numbers: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM001TWOTON~1.JPG

A Rockford, 18s, 17j, HC, LS, about which I haven't been able to find much information. If anyone knows the grade of this movement and the estimated production, I'd appreciate hearing from them. It's not listed in Ehrhardt's "Rockford" book: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM002TWOTON~2.JPG

A Rockford, 18s,15j, HC, LS, Grade 84. Total production is supposed to be 6,900: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM003TWOTON~3.JPG

A Columbus, 18s, 16j, OF, LS, "Railway King." This movement looks almost exactly like the one below, which is the HC version of the same thing: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM004TWOTON~4.JPG

A Columbus, 18s, 16j, HC, LS, "Railway King." This movement is almost identical to the OF one above. The only difference I notice is that the one above has gilded plate screws, while the ones in this one are polished steel: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM005TWOTON~5.JPG

A Rockford, 18s, 15j, OF, LS/PS, Grade 87. Serial number lists indicate that 5,500 of these were produced. Note the lever set/pendant set option: http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM006TWOTON~6.JPG

A Hamilton, 18s, 21j, OF, LS, "940." I know they're not extremely uncommon, but can anyone tell me how many two-tone 940 models Hamilton made? http://www.awco.org/archive/Maddox/SM007TWOTON~7.JPG

And finally, an Illinois, 16s, 23j, HC, LS, "Sangamo," which was shown previously in a thread that was subsequently deleted. Ehrhardt's "Illinois" book indicates that 700 of these were produced, but I'm not sure if all of them were two-tones or not. I believe that Terry Hall indicated that he had one of these that wasn't a two-tone, but I'm not sure if it was an open face (model 5) or a hunting case (model 4). http://members.aol.com/lrhorology/SangamoMvmt.JPG

As exemplified by the Sangamo in the image above, many Illinois watches have pink colored two-tone work. Was this characteristic unique to Illinois products, or did other companies make some models with pink colored two-tone work as well?

I hope everyone enjoys the pictures, and any additional information will be greatly appreciated!


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Steve Maddox
President, NAWCC Chapter #62
North Little Rock, Arkansas

Greg Davis
04-08-2002, 08:25 AM
Needless to say, the picture of my humble Seth Thomas is available for whatever use you might have:
http://home.flash.net/~tryppyr/seth1.jpg

- Greg

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Jerry Treiman
04-08-2002, 08:37 AM
Neat watches, Steve! Here are a few of mine (non-running movements from my "junk" drawer) including another Seth Thomas and several Columbus.
http://www.nawcc-info.org/Treiman/JT0132tone.jpg



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Barry G
04-08-2002, 09:02 AM
Well, it's not much, but here's my entire collection of two tones:

http://barrygoldberg.net/watches/twotones.jpg

The Bunn Special is rather faded, unfortunately. My favorite is the Waltham M92 "P.S. Bartlett".

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

terry hall
04-08-2002, 09:26 AM
I posted another tu tone here. http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000743.html
Here are the Sangamo movements Steve mentions
Model 4 Sangamo (http://web.infoave.net/~ehall/mod4sangamo.jpg) and Model 5 Sangamo (http://web.infoave.net/~ehall/mod5sangamo.jpg)

The 23J I mentioned was an open face (model 5). It does not appear that it was an example with washed out tu tone. I will post it later.



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Greg Frauenhoff
04-08-2002, 01:18 PM
Steve,

A partial list of the other Aurora mvts with the damaskeening similar to yours includes: 81155, 81185, 81186, 81267, 81277, 81283. There are some more numbers of these around here somewhere and if they should surface I will post them.

Your Rockford 18s 17j hunter is probably a grade 838.

Neat watches.

Greg