Silverode Case Question....

[Lorne]

Hello All,

In my never ending quest to learn by making every possible error, I've bodly gone where only fools have gone before...

I have purchased a Silverode case for my Waltam model 1892. It is far more authentic than the ratty Elgin case it was in (the original was probably scrapped), so please, I'm switching BACK to a more original state.

That being said, the stem of the watch is of the socket type, intended for a movement with a male stud rather than a female recess for a winding stem.

I've compared the case to another Silverode I've got, and they are the same except for the stem. Can stems be switc....I mean exchanged, between cases?

Lorne "the exchanger" Gilsig

[Jon Hanson]

Stem SWITCHING can be very dangerous!:stupid:

[Lorne]

Aw come on!!!

[Al Schook]

Lorne, you sound like a soul mate ... mate!! LOL I think I am a relative of Jaques Closeau. As he has said; "I have often snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because I accept the challange!" I can't do the vocal that Peter Sellers does with "challange." I leave that to your imagination! Whatever you do PLEASE do not upset the space-time continuum in my little area of the world!

On the farm we said if it don't fit, use a bigger hammer ... but I have abandoned that approach for most wrist and pocket watches! :cool:

[Kugler77]

Hello, I would say the whole live is dangerous! Lorne, I would not change the stem either. First it should be no problem to get an silveroid case with a normal male stem as they are quite common. The cases with the female stem are usually just for leaver set movements. So the stem is held by a smal srew in the case. So they do not have the sleeves that are needed if you have a pendant set watch. And I would say this is the main problem if you want to switch male to female stems or contrary. So you will be in the need of a fitting male stem and I guess it is much easyer to find a new silveroid case than the stem you need. But anyway I hope you will be successful in restoring your watch! Best wishes Peter

[Kugler77]

Hello again... I would say the whole life is dangerous! That was what I meant... Peter

[Dave Coatsworth]

If your case has a set screw (or a dust cap), you can use these adjustable stems. They are available with both male and female ends.

[Lorne]

I was just looking at that picture on what is probably your website. I guess what I'm going to have to do now is remove the old stem and see what I've got.

I didn't notice a set screw on either of my silveroid cases. I'm assuming that whatever keeps the stem in place is internal to the sleeve, with the crown holding it from above and some flange on the stem holding it from below.


Lorne

[Dave Coatsworth]

Yes, if there's no set screw and no dust cap, then you have a sleeve screwed into the pendant, which is holding the stem. In this case, you are not going to be able to switch to a female stem. (At least I don't recall ever seeing a female stem for a sleeved pendant.)

[Lorne]

So, I'm stuck with a stem with the female end and can't switch to a stem with a male end?

Lorne

[Dave Coatsworth]

From what you are describing, that seems to be true.

[Tom Huber]

Lorne, The case that you have was basically made to house a model 77 or 79 Waltham. There are other early makes with the male winding arbor, ie Illinois and hampden. Your case with the female stem is desirable in its own right. If you are willing, I would be able to to trade you a nice silveroid case with the stem that you want. I have a movement for the case that you have. It would save you the hassle of the attempt at changeing. What they mean by dangerous is that these are not always easy switches.

If you are interested, please e-mail or PM me.

Tom