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syeht
07-04-2009, 12:44 PM
Just posted photos of my 1891 Dueber Hampden pocket watch, in the community photo gallery here(http://mb.nawcc.org/album.php?albumid=120).At the site:
http://www.global-horology.com/GHMB/
There information said a watch face with the "Flag H" should have the same mark on the movement. Mine has a "Flag Anchor D" any ideas? also what are the numbers on the case 4499700, on the rim 9 9700 and a small mark on the inside cover 7-12^ ?

Kent
07-04-2009, 11:33 PM
Hi syeht:

The Hampden Watch Co. trade mark of a flag containing the marking of an anchor-D was used for its No. 106 grade. As you may be aware, the model 2 was actually made before the model 1 - called a dome model (whose lowered rim was designed to allow the movement to be placed in a thinner case). The earliest of the model 2 movements (those having a stepped balance cock) had a larger diameter cannon pinion. It was these watches (having a stepped balance cock) that were fitted with dials bearing the same trade mark as was stamped on the movement.

Your watch has a single level balance cock, indicating that it would be incorrect to have a dial bearing the same trade mark as was stamped on the movement. However, the flag with an "H" on it that is on your dial may be incorrect for another reason. According to page 49 of The Hampden Watch Co., NAWCC Special Order Supplement #1, J. Hernick and R. Arnold, NAWCC, Columbia, PA, 1997, that dial belongs on a grade No. 110 H

Your movement is a hunting-case movement. However, it has been placed in an open-face case. Some people refer to this combination as a Sidewinder (http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?title=Movement+Type#Sidewinder).

The number on the Dueber Watch Case Manufacturing Co. case, #4499700 is the serial number of the case. The last five digits of that serial number was stamped on the rim to ensure that the parts of the case would remain together during the case manufacturing process. If you look carefully, you should be able to find these numbers scratched into the inside of the bezel, in Roman numerals.

The 7-12^ is an example of Watch Repairers' Marks.

Good luck,

syeht
07-05-2009, 11:32 AM
Thank you for the information. I don't collect watches,but received this as a gift. I'm quite interested in it's history. Though being so old I don't think I would carry it around. maybe a nice display case. I looked inside the bezel. Stamped on the rim is the 9 9700, but not in roman numerals.

Veritas
07-05-2009, 11:37 AM
Thse old watches are good carry watches, as i do use mine and others do as well.
With care they will out last any quartz watch made today.
I am sure it will look good in a display case as well.:)