Waltham Montgomery dial - is it genuine?

[Antarctic Jamie]

Hi, I've read that genuine Montgomery dials have the '6' in the subdial where some imitations often don't. This one does but I've never seen one with the inner ring of '13-24' numbers. Is this a genuine dial? Any advice gratefully received.

[Jon Hanson]

genuine

[Kent]

Marginal minute dials (those with each minute numbered), Montgomery safety numerical dials and Canadian dials (those with an inner ring of 13-24 hour figures) are discussed in a Wiki article on Pocket Watch Dials. Since Montgomery's dial patent is lost and since there is no documentation showing that Montgomery actually described a dial having its minutes numbered and having an inner ring of 13-24 hour figures, it is not quite correct to refer to the dial you posted as being a Montgomery dial. The proper description of it would be a Canadian marginal minute dial.

That doesn't mean that it is not a genuine Waltham dial. As Jon indicated, it certainly is genuine. What movement is it on?

[Antarctic Jamie]

Thanks Kent, as always info is much appreciated. The dial is on an 1892 845 grade movement, s/n 18106736.

[StanJS]

I have the same dial on an 18s 23J Vanguard.

Cheers,
Stan