Riverside dial with train?

[Peepaw]

I've been looking at some Riversides and I came across this one. It's the only one on e-bay with a train on it. Can any of you guys tell me if this is original or not?




I kind of like the dial but haven't seen one on any of the other Riversides that I've looked at.

Thanks in advance for any info you might have.

Scott

[rrwatch]

IMHO the dial, while attractive, is a new replacement dial that does NOT resemble an original dial. The original dials on most of these 19 Jewel Riverside movements was either a double sunk porcelain enamel dial with Arabic numerals or a Montomery dial with the minutes from 1 to 60 around the outside.
Oh, and the movement shown in the listing is a Model 1908, not a Model 1899. These two models are very similar, with only a couple of minor changes between them.
The case, bearing Ingersoll Trenton marks and showing additional case screw marks, is not original to the movement.

[Peepaw]

IMHO the dial, while attractive, is a new replacement dial that does NOT resemble an original dial. The original dials on most of these 19 Jewel Riverside movements was either a double sunk porcelain enamel dial with Arabic numerals or a Montomery dial with the minutes from 1 to 60 around the outside.
Oh, and the movement shown in the listing is a Model 1908, not a Model 1899. These two models are very similar, with only a couple of minor changes between them.
The case, bearing Ingersoll Trenton marks and showing additional case screw marks, is not original to the movement.


Thank you sir, I didn't think that dial was correct, mainly because I hadn't been able to find one anywhere near like it. It does look cool, but I would rather have original than cool.

I see you're another Ga guy.


Scott

[Peepaw]

IMHO the dial, while attractive, is a new replacement dial that does NOT resemble an original dial. The original dials on most of these 19 Jewel Riverside movements was either a double sunk porcelain enamel dial with Arabic numerals or a Montomery dial with the minutes from 1 to 60 around the outside.
Oh, and the movement shown in the listing is a Model 1908, not a Model 1899. These two models are very similar, with only a couple of minor changes between them.
The case, bearing Ingersoll Trenton marks and showing additional case screw marks, is not original to the movement.


Just trying to learn here. I guess extra case screw markings in different positions from the present ones usually means none original case?
Would I be right to assume that?

Thanks in advance.
Scott

[Kent]

Just trying to learn here. I guess extra case screw markings in different positions from the present ones usually means none original case?
Would I be right to assume that?

Thanks in advance.
Scott

Correct, the case has held a different movement at one time in the past.

[Peepaw]

Thank Kent, I sort of guessed that from the reply rrwatch gave me but I wanted to be sure.

Scott

[Bryan Eyring]

I've been looking at some Riversides and I came across this one. It's the only one on e-bay with a train on it. Can any of you guys tell me if this is original or not?




I kind of like the dial but haven't seen one on any of the other Riversides that I've looked at.

Thanks in advance for any info you might have.

Scott

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Regards,
Bryan

[Peepaw]

A reminder to all - the NAWCC rules strictly forbid direct links to live auctions or sales sites. Please adhere to this requirement.

Regards,
Bryan


Sorry about that, I join up and break the rules on my first thread.:o

Scott