any clue what this pocket watch is or age?

[robertjp]

I have had this pocket watch for a long time and am finally thinking about selling it. I know nothing about these so if anyone can give me a clue as to its origin , age, manufacturer and value, I would greatly appreciate it. Here is what I know. It appears very old, it says "Anti Magnetique" on the front face, it has 13-24 numbers on the front for the times, there is no glass, there is a picture of a train on the back, I do not know if it works, Im to afraid to do anything to it other than look at it. Anybody have any info on this? Thanks in advance. Take a look at the pics and see what you think. BP

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/bpswing/oldstopwatch1.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/bpswing/oldstopwatchback.jpg

[Kent]

Hi BP:

Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board!

Your watch has all the signs of being a modest European watch, most likely Swiss, built in the late 19th century. You'd have to open the back and post a picture of the movement for us to be able to tell you any more than that. To do so, you might find the information in "How To Open A Pocket Watch Case (https://home.comcast.net/~k_singer/Opening_Pocket_Watch_Cases__k.htm)" useful. Your case looks like a Hinged Back & Bezel case.

Even after posting a picture of the movement, we won't be able to discuss the value, that would be against the rules of this message board. However, we should be able to give you enough information to be able to search for similar watches on the internet and see how much they are selling for.

You won't hurt it by turning the crown back and forth a few times in order to wind the watch. You will really need to know if it is running in order to sell it.

Good luck,

[LloydB]

Go to this site: http://www.snyderstreasures.com/pages/goring.htm

and scroll down or search for "pocket watch".

Yours could well be a twin --

This one was (if you can believe the text) a wedding gift
to Goering in 1935, so that should give you a very rough
idea of when it might have been retailed. There's no
picture of the movement at that site, so when you can
post yours, someone here may be able to tell you more.

It's almost certainly a pin-set Swiss movement, and it
will be interesting to see just how 'fancy' it might be.

[Cary Hurt]

Lloyd,

While I agree that the watch in question is a twin to the alleged Goering watch, I think the styling is a lot earlier than 1935, and the quality is a lot less than I would have expected of a wedding gift to the famously vain and ostentatious Goering.

Stylistically, I'd put both of these watches earlier than the First World War. A clear picture of the movement would make it possible to be a bit more precise in dating.

Regards,

Cary

[robertjp]

I think your are right, the Goring watch appears to be the same. The wording is the same and it looks the same except he has a coat of arms on the back, I have a train. This is what the wording says inside the cover. "Remontoir Ancre Ligne Droite Leve'es Visibles Anti Magnetique 15 Rubis Double Plateau Precision"

Here are 2 more pics. 1 of the movement and 1 of the writing I just mentioned.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/bpswing/movementpocketwatch.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/bpswing/insidecoverwritingpocketwatch.jpg

Can someone tell me how I should attempt to wind this ? back and forth or clockwise or counter clockwise or not attempt anything? Thanks much. Bob

[robertjp]

Can somebody please chime in now that I have posted pics of the movements? Thanks much BP

[LloydB]

Can somebody please chime in now that I have posted pics of the movements? Thanks much BP

I agree.

A quite similar movement was shown recently, in a thread
with "Shreve Crump & Low" in the subject line, in the
"European and Other" PW forum.

Apparently it's of good quality, certainly better than any
pin-set movement I've actually handled (not that many, tho'.)

Hmmm.... tried to edit this, maybe?

Perhaps copying this thread to the "European" PW forum
would generate more responses?

[RON in PA]

The only comments I'll make is that this should be in the European section and more importantly, since the regulator is moved all the way over to the fast side I would not run the watch until it was cleaned and lubed.

Swiss, late 19th cent.-early 20th cent, good, but not high quality.

[Bill B]

From the first pictures this watch is most likely a re case as the stem is at three, so the markings on case most likely do not describe the movement that is in it now. I agree, move this thread to European section where it should be.

[robertjp]

How do I move this thread to the European section ?

[Tom McIntyre]

If you click on the red triangle with the exclamation mark in it, you will generate a request to the moderator to do something. As him to move the post. He may do it quicker than that by seeing the message you posted above.