Image theft and Fraudulent auctions

[Barry Parker]

Here's a seller to watch out for.
Compare this seller's auction at;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2641898198&category=3940
with Steve Bogoff's item at http://www.bogoff.com/pocket/5251.html

Steve and the bidder bradsax@yahoo.com have been advised.
Barry Parker

[Barry Parker]

Here's a seller to watch out for.
Compare this seller's auction at;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2641898198&category=3940
with Steve Bogoff's item at http://www.bogoff.com/pocket/5251.html

Steve and the bidder bradsax@yahoo.com have been advised.
Barry Parker

[Wes]

THis seems to happen more often that it should.... :mad:

NAWCC# 156994; Chapter 149 Member #149
Web Horology MB (www.webhorology.com)

[Oliver Mundy]

Congratulations, Barry! This is surely too clear-cut a case to require any of the wranglings of conscience which have been recently discussed elsewhere.

The Watch Cabinet (http://www.horologia.co.uk)

[BrianC]

Who in their right mind would bid on something from someone with a -1 feedback rating?
Brian C.

[Tom McIntyre]

Anyone who is not registered is hiding their identity. It does not matter if it looks like a name or not.

Users can select whatever name they want. :biggrin:

Registered users are at least showing an email address to the administrator.

Tom McIntyre
2nd VP Elect
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.AWCo.org)

[Jeff Hess]

And if the NAWCC was involved with EBAY to certify an autions seller as a good guy and member in good standing and a dealer who has vowed and agreed to stand behind his goods and to have credit card on file of both the buyer nd the seller, well, it would be a good thing.

Jeff

JPH

[Barry Parker]

The subject item #2641898198 has sold to buyer ID 114jmf.

Ebay can't give out his email address, so I have asked a seller with whom 114jmf has had dealings and asked him to forward a warning to him.

Why the buyer didn't click on the (-1) feedback is beyond me. The warning is there.
See:-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3940&item=2639698932
and compare with;
http://personal.centric.net/arlenesantiques/sp21.htm

I suspect that this bogus seller is the same person who was stealing antique watches pics and descriptions recently.
This guy is based in Indonesia.
I was able to obtain his' full name, home address, phone number, bank address and all of his bank account numbers. I reported it all to ebay and to JW at antique watches, who tried to take police action, but he was told to forget it as they can't do a thing about it.
All the victim can do is to bid $100,000 on the auction using the stolen pics and description, and become the winning bidder on the item, then renege on the deal and let the seller worry about handling ebay's selling and listing fees problem.

Barry Parker

[Ralph]

Why can't you send a message to the bidder?

You can use eBay to relay the message.

On your other point, if you bid $100000 and the guy knows you are on to him, he can leave you negative feedback as a parting shot. It's a pain to get removed, even if the person ends up suspended.

Ralph

[fffffg]

if you bid at 100,000 and the watch is listed starting bid of 100 dollars, and noone else bid you have won the watch for 100 dollars. so bidding 100,000 wont prove much.. dave..

[Greg Davis]

You guys are funny. You think the loser in Indonesia is worried about paying eBay fees? So let me get this straight... you think he'll run a fraudulent auction, then be very fastidious about maintaining an account on eBay with guaranteed negative feedback?

No, let me clue you in a bit more. This guy is running multiple frauds simultaneously. First, he steals credit card and identity information so he can open a new eBay account. Then he steals images so he can open a fraudulent auction. Then, if he's lucky, he steals the money of the buyer. Then he starts all over again with another stolen credit card and identity. At no time does he ever put his money on the table... ever.

If he opted to pay the eBay fee at all, it would be paid using the stolen credit card. Someone else gets hurt, not him. But then, why should he bother? By the time eBay comes around asking for their cut of the fraudulent auction, this guy is already two or three identities farther down the road.

So bid your bogus $100,000 bid if you like, in the name of protecting a real bidder that might be dumb enough to send money to this loser. You will certainly be doing something to protect the innocent (at the possible cost of negative feedback). But don't kid yourself that you're hurting this fraudulent seller in any way other than denying him the ability to steal the mark's money. He has no skin in the game at all. And if you're smart, you'll limit the amount of skin you expose... I'll leave it to your fertile imaginations to figure out how to limit exposure.

- Greg

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Ch.149 member #77

[Tom McIntyre]

To Chaz for Chapter 185.

I intended no criticism of you. I was only pointing out that as long as you are not registered, anyone in the world can claim to be you with equal validity to yourself. The same is true of Mr. Furst who is also not registered.

If you like, I can illustrate this with a posting from "you" that I concoct.

There is no cost or danger in registering on this board. I would encourage even casual visitors to do so. It protects your good name. Once you have registered, no one else can use it.

Tom McIntyre
2nd VP Elect
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.AWCo.org)

[neighmond]

I AM registered, and have been since Early this year.

Chaz James
Chapter 185

Every man must have a purpose to strive for
A cause to fight for
A dream to live for
Because
A man without a dream is dead.

[Greg Davis]

Muy bueno. Sorry to hassle you unnecessarily.

- Greg

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Ch.149 member #77