Early English Keywind? (PIC)

[MIKE NARDICK]

I need some help on a Keywing watch I just purchased.
It is Signed on the movement: H. Samuel's.
Acme Lever
Patent Balance
Patent Barrel
Manchester
No. 14528
On the Dial it has: Acme Lever, H. Samuel's Manchester.
Runs Very Good
Has all the Silver Hallmarks.
Medallions on the dust cover plus, Jeweled Movement, Capped Lever, Visible Pallets, Guaranteed.
Can Anyone give me more Info?
Age?
Thanks,
Mike
http://www.geocities.com/snaker32/Pict0043.JPG

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Mike Nardick
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Chapter #37 Allegheny

[MIKE NARDICK]

I need some help on a Keywing watch I just purchased.
It is Signed on the movement: H. Samuel's.
Acme Lever
Patent Balance
Patent Barrel
Manchester
No. 14528
On the Dial it has: Acme Lever, H. Samuel's Manchester.
Runs Very Good
Has all the Silver Hallmarks.
Medallions on the dust cover plus, Jeweled Movement, Capped Lever, Visible Pallets, Guaranteed.
Can Anyone give me more Info?
Age?
Thanks,
Mike
http://www.geocities.com/snaker32/Pict0043.JPG

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Mike Nardick
#144409
Chapter #37 Allegheny

[Barry G]

Hey, Mike! I don't really know a lot about these watches, but I have actually seen quite a number of them [and have even owned one at one point].

My understanding is that Mr. Samuel was an importer of Swiss watches living and working in England. I don't believe he actually produced them himself. All the ones I have seen were rather low grade, to be honest.

Regards,

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection:
http://www.ultranet.com/~barry/watches.htm

[Jon Hanson]

Mike,

The quick answer for those interested in dating English watches is to buy a hallmark book. These are not expensive. Or, go to the library or borrow one from a friend. Also, the nawcc LL has them.

Of course, accuracy depends on the watch being "all original", but most (later) English KW watches are difficult to recase or "switch" (winding holes, size, depth, etc.) and fairly easy to detect. :biggrin:

Jon Hanson, nawcc#8801

[This message has been edited by Jon Hanson (edited 08-31-2000).]

[Barry G]

Oh, and I forgot to mention... All of these which I have seen are from the late 1800's to early 1900's, based on the hallmarks. There certainly could be earlier examples out there, of course....

Barry

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http://www.ultranet.com/~barry/watches.htm

[Tom McIntyre]

As Barry mentioned Samuels was and still is a jewelry house in England.

From what little I can see of your watch, it looks like a standard, run of the mill, English railroad watch. There were no time standards for watches in England since the station clocks had to be visible from the train and there was never more than 15 minutes or so between stations. The typical watch was a sturdy Swiss import.


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Tom McIntyre
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.mcintyre.com/McIntyre)

[MIKE NARDICK]

Thanks to everyone for all the help.
So i guess i got a cheapo........ :smile:
Mike

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Mike Nardick
#144409
Chapter #37 Allegheny