Posting Images

[Kent]

Yes, you can attach them to an e-mail to me (by clicking on the speeding letter at the top of my post) and I'll post them for you.

Its also helpful if you can post all the markings that are on the movement in case they can't be seen in the picture(s).

Kent

[Tom McIntyre]

Or, you can send them to me and I will permanently post them at http://archive.awco.org

No charge and they never go away.

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Tom McIntyre
Past President, NAWCC Chapters 174 and 87
Member Chapters 8, 87, 149, 159, 161 and 174
Pocket Horology Web (http://www.pocketwatch.org)
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.AWCo.org)

[Kent]

Here are the pictures of WTM's watch:

Dial: 1st View (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/dial1.jpg)
Dial: 2nd View (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/dial2.jpg)
Movement: 1st View (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/mvt1.jpg)
Movement: 2nd View (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/mvt2.jpg)
Movement: 3rd View (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/mvt3.jpg)
Case Serial Number (http://www.knology.net/~ksinger/sn.jpg)

WTM would like to know if now that his watch can be seen, are the following thoughts that he received reasonable?

Your watch is almost certainly Swiss, or possibly English with Swiss chronograph works. Doctor's typically carried chronograph watches and the 0 to 30 dial at the 12:00 position would be the minute register for the chronograph mechanism. There is also center hand. By pushing on the crown you can start, stop and return the center hand. Could this be a keyless Fusee Chronometer?

Kent :smile:

[Steve Maddox]

In my opinion, this is a Swiss minute repeater with a double register chronograph. The repeater should function by operating the slide piece on the side of the case, and the chronograph should start, stop, and reset, by depressing the button in the center of the winding crown.

I seriously, seriously doubt that this watch has a fusee, but I suppose anything's possible.

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Steve Maddox
President, NAWCC Chapter #62
North Little Rock, Arkansas

[Jon Hanson]

WAM,

This is a typical Swiss movement and ABSOLUTELY not a fusee.

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Jon Hanson, nawcc#8801
President and moderator chapter 149

[Tom McIntyre]

I would call the chronograph single register. The other dial is the free running seconds. A double register chronograph has two accumulators for long and short intervals like 30 minutes and 12 hours.

As has been said, no way a fuzee.

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Tom McIntyre
Past President, NAWCC Chapters 174 and 87
Member Chapters 8, 87, 149, 159, 161 and 174
Pocket Horology Web (http://www.pocketwatch.org)
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.AWCo.org)

[Steve Maddox]

A single register chronograph registers one single thing -- seconds only, and nothing else. A double register chronograph registers two things -- seconds and minutes. A triple register chronograph registers three things -- seconds, minutes, and hours.

To ignore the seconds register is to ignore the most basic element of any chronograph. All chronographs have a seconds register -- that's what makes a watch a chronograph. Many have a minute recorder as well, which is the 2nd register, and some also have an hour recorder, which is the 3rd register.

A similar situation exists with watches having date indicators. A watch having a "single date" indicates only the date of the month, and nothing else. A "double date" indicates the date, as well as the day of the week. A "triple date" indicates the date, the day of the week, and the month of the year. Each function is considered and counted; none are ignored.

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Without actually examining the inner workings of a movement, I'd never presume to make any "absolute" statements, but like I said above, "I seriously, seriously doubt that this watch has a fusee." Of course, I also wouldn't presume to refer to a minute repeater with a double register chronograph as a "typical Swiss movement," so perhaps I have different standards than some.

SM

[Philip Hagar]

Add me to the list that CAN SEE for sure that the movement is NOT A FUSEE. Guess WAM and others just don't have much experience with these Swiss movements (or fusees for that matter). Very basic horology: check out some library material and do some horological reading!

Phil

[Jerry Treiman]

Regarding the escapement, it appears to have a standard lever escapement. Perhaps the question about it being a "chronometer" was a mis-stated reference to the chronograph functions.

Also, I am truly astounded at the way people are jumping on Steve's back here. He clearly, but DIPLOMATICALLY stated that it was not likely a fusee, without insulting the perceptions of the original poster or others who expressed uncertainty.



[This message has been edited by Jerry Treiman (edited 04-11-2002).]