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Kent
10-26-2005, 12:47 PM
Hi lobf:

Welcome to the NAWCC Pocket Watch Message Board!

It sounds like it might be a 15-jewel watch, but we'll need more information. It would be helpful if you could post a picture of the movement (the "works"), the clearer and sharper, the better. We may be able to tell more about it after seeing it. Also, if you can open the bezel (the metal ring that holds the crystal - the glass) and measure the dial diameter (not including the case, just the dial), that would also be helpful.

For an open-face, screw back & bezel cased watch you can get good results by placing the movement on a flatbed scanner. A hunting-case movement, or an open-face movement in a hinged case would have to be removed from the case for this to work. Otherwise, it’ll have to be a digital camera, or a scan of a photograph.

Larry Jones has written up a useful article on Image Posting (http://www.larjones.com/data/imagehelp.html), which may be helpful.

Currently, Tom Chaudoir, the NAWCC Message Board Administrator, is recommending that those who do not have web space in which to post pictures register for a free account at flickr.com (http://flickr.com/register.gne). This may now open a Yahoo page, but it will still let you register to post pictures. Their menu-driven procedure for loading pictures is about as easy as it gets. After you enlarge the picture, using flickr's magnifying glass icon (the magnifying glass icon appears in a toolbar above the loaded & saved picture once you've clicked on the picture), scroll down below the picture to find the field labeled "1. Grab the photo's URL:" The link in that field is the one to post on the NAWCC Pocket Watch Message Board. Vic Rose has posted an excellent old ref::Description on How to Post a Picture on the NAWCC Clock Message Board.

If you have a problem posting the picture(s), you can attach it (them) to an e-mail to me (you can get my email address by clicking on my name in the upper left-hand corner of this post and viewing my Public Profile) and I'll post it (them) for you.

Its also helpful if you can post all the markings that are on the movement (the "works") in case they can't be seen in the picture(s). The serial numbe would be somewhat helpful, but not so much with Omega watches as with many American-made watches.

Good luck,

Ralph Porter
11-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Hi lobf,
For more information you might try contacting the vintage watch archives at Omega's museum.

About a year ago they were a great help identifying the date, model, and quality grade of a pocket watch I have. They even provided a list of pocket watches by caliber they've produced from the 1800's until now, in French of course. It did take several emails until I got all the info.

Their email is http://www.Vintage.Information@omega.ch
The gentleman that was so helpful to me is Jean-Luc Miranda. I recommend you send your written info as well the photo if you contact them.

I hope this helps, Ralph

Roland Ranfft
11-09-2005, 02:41 PM
Hi lobf,

it is an Omega calibre 38.5T1, thus diameter 38.5mm, first "transformation" of the 38.5. This movement was introduced 1933 as economy movement for overseas export.

While Omega designated calibres after their diameter, and special features until 1949, they changed to meaningless numbers in 1949. So the 38.5T1 got the name 161.

If I read the movement number 17107116 right, the movement was made in 1961 - maybe one of the latest Omega pocket watches ever made.

Regards, Roland Ranfft