identification

[LORI]

I have recently found a pocket watch belonging to my father and I need help identifyng it. It is silver metal. When the cover is opened the following appears.
ANCRE
SPIRAL BREGUET 15 RUBIS
LEVEES VISIBLES
It also has what appears to be 2 rows of 5 coins each, engraved on it.
On the inside of the cover is numbe 48927 and 0.800 EP. Both hands are intact and it has a smaller dial on the face for the seconds. That hand is also intact. There is no glass cover over thr face of the watch. Should anyone have any information I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank You, Lori

[LORI]

I have recently found a pocket watch belonging to my father and I need help identifyng it. It is silver metal. When the cover is opened the following appears.
ANCRE
SPIRAL BREGUET 15 RUBIS
LEVEES VISIBLES
It also has what appears to be 2 rows of 5 coins each, engraved on it.
On the inside of the cover is numbe 48927 and 0.800 EP. Both hands are intact and it has a smaller dial on the face for the seconds. That hand is also intact. There is no glass cover over thr face of the watch. Should anyone have any information I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank You, Lori

[Kent]

Hi Lori:

Welcome to the NAWCC Pocket Watch Message Board!

Your watch is very likely to be Swiss-made. The "coins" on the back actually represent medals won by the company in competitions and they are really a form of advertising.

As you probably figured out, the has a 15-jewel movement. It is fitted with a Breguet overcoil hairspring. The 0.800 on the case back is the fineness of the silver. 0.800 silver is usually referred to as coin silver. All-in-all, it soulnds like a modest watch, but certainly not the cheapest one available at the time.

Swiss watch manufacture was made up of a large number of small shops. Many would buy movements in the rough (known as ebauches) from factories who mass-produced them, and finish the movements to the grade (quality) contracted for by the distributor/exporter. The distributor/exporter would probably have specified the name on the movement and/or dial to meet a retailer's requirement. The result is that there are a large number of generic Swiss watches whose origins may never be fully known. Don Dahlberg has written a old ref ::Good Description of the process. Also, Dr. Roland Ranfft has an online description about European watch manufacture and dates, entitled Date and Origin of a Watch (http://www.ranfft.de/uhr/info-e.htm#D1).

Having said all of that, it would be helpful if you could post a picture of the movement (the "works"), the clearer and sharper, the better, other pictures will help a little, but this is the most important. We may be able to identify it by the shape of the plates.

Currently, it is recommended that those who do not have web space in which to post pictures register for a free account at flickr.com (http://flickr.com/register.gne). This may now open a Yahoo page, but it will still let you register to post pictures. Their menu-driven procedure for loading pictures is about as easy as it gets. After you enlarge the picture, using flickr's magnifying glass icon (the magnifying glass icon appears in a toolbar above the loaded & saved picture once you've clicked on the picture), scroll down below the picture to find the field labeled "1. Grab the photo's URL:" The link in that field is the one to post on the NAWCC Pocket Watch Message Board. Vic Rose has posted an excellent old ref::Description on How to Post a Picture on the NAWCC Clock Message Board, which of course also works on for posting a picture on the pocket watch message board.

If you have a problem posting the picture(s), you can attach it (them) to an e-mail to me (you can get my email address by clicking on my name in the upper left-hand corner of this post and viewing my Public Profile) and I'll post it (them) for you.

Its also helpful if you can post all the markings that are on the movement (the "works") in case they can't be seen in the picture(s).

Good luck,

[Jon Hanson]

Swiss

[nawruz]

holy cow!

that's exactly the same description for the pocket watch i'm seeking info about:

http://www.nawcc-mb.com/bbv2/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=3;gtid=211619

this is getting exciting