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Barry G
02-15-2002, 06:55 AM
Howdy, Dan!

I'm sorry to say that your watch is neither a genuine Waltham nor an actual Railroad watch.

The Waltham Watch Company went out of business in the 1950's. Sometime in the 1970's these cheap Swiss watches started showing up bearing the name "Waltham Watch Company" but having no relation whatsoever to watches made by the real Waltham Watch Company, which is why you won't find a serial number on the movement.

As for it being a "railroad watch", simply having a train on the dial or case doesn't make it a railroad watch. Railroad "grade" watches had to be made to certain high specifications with regard to material and accuracy, and railroad "approved" watches had to also be specifically accepted for use on one or more railroads.

Some of these watches have shown up with an additional fake 8 jewels glued on the back of the movement and marked "25 jewels", which has led some gullible folks to shell out hundreds of dollars for what they think is a rare and high grade watch. The 17 jewel versions aren't as bad as that, since they don't represent themseves to be any better than what they are, but a lot of buyers still get deceived into thinking they are genuine Walthams in spite of the fact that they are marked "Swiss made".

Sorry about that...

Barry

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Barry G
02-15-2002, 09:55 AM
Well, Dan, the fact that the watch is marked "Swiss Made" is pretty much a dead giveaway that it wasn't actually made by the Waltham Watch Company. Once companies go out of business, their names go up for grabs. This is not necessarily a forgery, since the Swiss company that made the watch could very well have legally purchased the right to use the Waltham name. But neither it is a genuine Waltham, and any serial number that would be on it would have no relation whatsoever to the serial numbers on watches made by the actual Waltham Watch Company.

Regards,

Barry

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Barry G
02-15-2002, 12:47 PM
My pleasure!

If you are interested in collecting real Waltham railroad watches, by the way, there are plenty of them out there. They do tend to be a bit more expensive than the Swiss versions, however [I'm assuming that you didn't actually pay much for the one you have, of course].

Two of the more common RR models were the Waltham "Vanguard" and "Crescent Street", and if you were to do a search on eBay I'm sure you'd find plenty of examples to look at.

Regards,

Barry

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