View Full Version : 1807 British Soldiers (Redcoats) on face?
Sheila Gilbert
05-11-2004, 08:54 AM
Wondered if anyone knew anything about this one, what name? or how old?
Unusual PW with British soldiers (Redcoats) and shows several pictures of it, and movement.
Expensive, and face in bad condition, I wondered about it for days, so I thought I would ask.
Link below
http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/nalfie/iteml/49584
Do collectors really buy watches with this kind of damage on the face, even if the watch is good?
Just wondered?
Thank you,
Sheila
Sheila Gilbert
05-11-2004, 08:54 AM
Wondered if anyone knew anything about this one, what name? or how old?
Unusual PW with British soldiers (Redcoats) and shows several pictures of it, and movement.
Expensive, and face in bad condition, I wondered about it for days, so I thought I would ask.
Link below
http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/nalfie/iteml/49584
Do collectors really buy watches with this kind of damage on the face, even if the watch is good?
Just wondered?
Thank you,
Sheila
Tom McIntyre
05-11-2004, 12:55 PM
Hi Sheila,
I think the dial damage takes a lot of value out of it. The watch itself is pretty typical of the so called Farmer's Verges. The subject matter looks like it may relate to the War of 1812.
Having said that, it is pretty interesting.
Sheila Gilbert
05-11-2004, 02:07 PM
Tom, I thought that too, gotta be 1812, but it's really in bad shape. I just thought it was different.
Did they paint watches back then?
I thought they left them alone that long ago.
Sheila
HenryB
05-11-2004, 02:45 PM
Not an expert on hallmarks, but the hallmark could be from the London Assay Office in 1807.
Found nothing on the maker, but this fellow may have owned the watch.( John Errington, Carrier, Hexham)
http://www.ukjmm.co.uk/no1.htm
Click on Fallowfield Mine
Here is what this link says:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Fallowfield Mine
Peter J. Briscoe
Fallowfield Mine, situated two miles north of Hexham, has a long and in some respects, unique history. Its existence is believed to date from Roman times, although the earliest documentary evidence is dated 1811, when a petition against Sir John Fenwick was lodged by the then mine owner, John Errington. Sir John Fenwick's pretext for acquistion being that it belonged to the King, presumably because a significant proportion of its output was silver <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sheila Gilbert
05-11-2004, 07:49 PM
WhooHoo! that is some serious research, I just love it! That may be why I love old watches, kinda a history thing. Very nice sruff you got there, makes you think huh?
We have a Fenwick here in MD, it's an island, makes ya realize that the world is actually a small place.
Thank you for the information, I get caught up in the history sometimes when it comes to watches that are old, it is so "kool" lol
Bet he had no idea that people would be talking about his watch in 2004 huh?
Bless,
Sheila
Frank Menez
05-11-2004, 09:03 PM
Very interesting watch. I agree that the Hall Mark is London 1807. I believe that the case maker is George Clerke of London who is recorded as making cases in 1806. Can not find any reference to the maker, will keep looking
Frank Menez
Frank Menez
05-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Found It---
It is R.P. Cramber London 1810 Watch in the Dennison collection. See Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World by G.H. Baillie
PS See my previous post
Frank Menez
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