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DEVILDOG76
04-07-2003, 05:15 AM
HI FOLKS,

I'M THINKING OF BUYING AN "N" HOWARD SERIES III, BUT I AM NOT SURE ON WHAT MODEL IT'S. IT'S IN A GOLD FILLED HUNTER CASE AND THE MOVEMENT HAS A SHINEY GOLD APPREARANCE AND NOT THE NORMAL GOLD GILT LOOK. THE SERIAL NUMBER ON THE MOVEMENT IS: 10,357 AND I THINK IT'S 15J. I SEE IN THE COOKSEY BOOK A LISTING UNDER HOWARD "N" SIZE SERIES III FOR A GOLD FLASH DMK, BUT THE ONLY FANCY DESIGN ON THE MOVEMENT IS THE SCROLL WORK ON THE BALANCE COCK. COULD SOMEONE HAVE GOLD PLATED THE MOVEMENT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE GOLD FLASH TYPE TO DECEIVE THE COLLECTOR? THE MOVEMENT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME MOVEMENT IN THE COOKSEY BOOK ON PAGE 252 IN THE LOWER LEFT PICTURE. ANY INFO ON HOW MANY OF THIS MODEL WAS PRODUCED AND ANY DETAILED INFO ON THIS WATCH WILL HELP GREATLY. THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

SINCERELY, DON

DEVILDOG76
04-07-2003, 05:15 AM
HI FOLKS,

I'M THINKING OF BUYING AN "N" HOWARD SERIES III, BUT I AM NOT SURE ON WHAT MODEL IT'S. IT'S IN A GOLD FILLED HUNTER CASE AND THE MOVEMENT HAS A SHINEY GOLD APPREARANCE AND NOT THE NORMAL GOLD GILT LOOK. THE SERIAL NUMBER ON THE MOVEMENT IS: 10,357 AND I THINK IT'S 15J. I SEE IN THE COOKSEY BOOK A LISTING UNDER HOWARD "N" SIZE SERIES III FOR A GOLD FLASH DMK, BUT THE ONLY FANCY DESIGN ON THE MOVEMENT IS THE SCROLL WORK ON THE BALANCE COCK. COULD SOMEONE HAVE GOLD PLATED THE MOVEMENT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE GOLD FLASH TYPE TO DECEIVE THE COLLECTOR? THE MOVEMENT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME MOVEMENT IN THE COOKSEY BOOK ON PAGE 252 IN THE LOWER LEFT PICTURE. ANY INFO ON HOW MANY OF THIS MODEL WAS PRODUCED AND ANY DETAILED INFO ON THIS WATCH WILL HELP GREATLY. THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

SINCERELY, DON

Harold Visser
04-07-2003, 06:06 AM
Hello Don, check your email for reply.
Harold

Bob Roth
04-08-2003, 01:59 AM
Buffed and recased-stay away from this one--go for condition.

Maybe Mr. Visser has an "original recase" for you?

Bob Roth
Chapter 149 charter member

Charles Isham
04-08-2003, 02:44 AM
Hi Mr. Devildog,

In my opinion your series 111 movement is polished as I don't recall 10xxx numbers being gilt damaskeened. Your case sounds not correct also.

In my experience Howards are a tricky business as the range from good to bad ones are everywhere.

There is a Howard Club which might interest you as it has the leading collectors and researchers in this group which puts out a newsletter. I joined to learn about Howards, as Waltham watches are my main interest.

Charles

Charles Isham

DEVILDOG76
04-08-2003, 07:32 AM
HI FOLKS,

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT AND HELPFUL INFO ON THIS WATCH. YOU ALL HAVE GAVE ME A GREAT DEAL OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOWARDS AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN AN ORIGINAL WATCH. I JUST WISHED HOWARD RECORDS WHERE A BIT MORE COMPLETE, BUT I GUESS FOR 130 PLUS SOME RECORDS ARE BETTER THEN NONE AT ALL. ONCE AGAIN THANKS TOO YOU ALL WHO REPLIED TO THIS POST AND TAKE CARE.

SINCERELY, DON