Am I missing something?

[MIKE NARDICK]

Guys,
Check out this watch on you know where.
I gotta be missing something here http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=888614967
Look at the 4th picture & read what it says above it.

No Scratches, Huh? Yeah, Right :biggrin:

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Mike Nardick
#144409
Chapter #37 Allegheny

[MIKE NARDICK]

Guys,
Check out this watch on you know where.
I gotta be missing something here http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=888614967
Look at the 4th picture & read what it says above it.

No Scratches, Huh? Yeah, Right :biggrin:

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Mike Nardick
#144409
Chapter #37 Allegheny

[MikeP]

Ahh, what the heck! The prose is excellent, worthy of the best used car salesmen and the numerous sharp photos are a welcome change.

He probably has a couple of hundred bucks of hourly labor for the auction entry alone. The poor guy has to make a little profit! :wink:

[Barry G]

All that fuss for a run-of-the-mill Elgin with rust on the movement, and a 12-size Elgin at that! Personally, I'd say that talking about the "huge investment potential" of this watch crosses the line from puffery to outright deception, but hey -- that's just me...

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

[abereiter]

Well, I have to give it to him. At least its accurate on the description. The photos and presentation are all very nice. Hey, looks good to me. It may not be my style but a bunch of somebodys like it and one somebody will end up with a nice watch. I dont have 1600.00$ to throw at a 12s but I dont think that is not a "fly by your seat" bid. You have to think and really want it to place a bid. Let it sell, it is really a nice watch. My 2 cents, Aaron

[This message has been edited by abereiter (edited 06-29-2002).]

[lots of time]

3 goose eggs bidding now. Have to admit, that is somewhat unusual, particularily, with an item bid up to what this one is. Perhaps a good watch to start a collection with????? lol
The watch does look nice to me though.. but not my cup of tea even at 1/10 the price.

[lots of time]

If you look at the other items this seller has on at this time, you have to admit that his marketing techniques are superb!! Very good pictures, glowing descriptions ect. Very nice indeed. I just spent over half an hour looking at the pretty pictures!!

[Tom McIntyre]

It is a very pretty case and nice dial. I thought at the beginning of buying the case for one of my 23J Elgine 12 size.

At this point, I think this is a practical joke. It looks like someone with 3 registrations bidding up the value to make a point. The practical joke is not without consequences since eBay will collect the final value fee on whatever value they choose to bid it up to. On the other hand I have known people to spend $100 or so to pull off a funny practical joke.

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Tom McIntyre
Past President, NAWCC Chapters 174 and 87
Member Chapters 8, 87, 149, 159, 161 and 174
NAWCC: Crafts Committee, Web Committee
Pocket Horology Web (http://www.pocketwatch.org)
Tommy the JOAT's Web (http://www.AWCo.org)

[Larry S]

Haven't you heard? It's the gold! Gold is going to 1000.00 per ounce. :wink: All those 0 feedback guys aren't watch collectors, they're gold speculators. Get in now before the inevitable price increase. 1600.00? A mere pittance when compared to the number of crowns a dentist can sell from this one case. The movement? I hear that lucite cubes are the next big thing. :biggrin:
http://www.mwt.net/~check/larry1.gif

[MIKE NARDICK]

abereiter,
You say At least its accurate on the description[HR][HR]
You can't see all the scratches in the 4th picture? http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif

The guy claims there are NO SCRATCHES at ALL on the case!

The Auction says Overall, this case has been fantastically well preserved. There is not one spec of wear
to be found anywhere on this case! There are no dents, no scratches, not even the
expected light scuffs from sliding around in a jewelery box. It looks just like it did when
it left the jewelers store.
[HR][HR]
Unbelievable :biggrin:

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Mike Nardick
#144409
Chapter #37 Allegheny

[Barry G]

From the bidding history, it looks like your typical clueless newbies who don't understand the proxy bidding system...

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

[GD]

Not exactly a watch story but an Ebay story. A few years ago I bid on a stoneware item on Ebay with no other bids. I was outbid almost immediately by a guy with zero feedback. I outbid HIm and within an hour or two was outbid by another user with no feedback at all. I outbid zero No. 2 and was outbid the THIRD time by another user with, again, no feedback history. At this point I gave up and emailed the seller asking him if he thought it was strange that I was outbid three times within the same day by three guys with zero feedback. He emailed me back with a threatening letter about he was going to contact Ebay for my "allegations" as he called them, on and on. I never replied, the auction ended with bidder Zero No. 3 being the high bidder. Anyway, just another Ebay story.

[John F]

Something very weird is going on here. This one's now up to $1800, and the high bidder is a name registered just yesterday - and in that time has bid on 20+ items and is the high or winning bidder for somewhere in the neighborhood of $40,000. What's up with that?

[lots of time]

I actually emailed the seller about this watch, saying, very nice watch but what is going on with the zero feedback bidders.. He expressed concern and said he had contacted ebay to find out details on the bidders. I think this one will probably go down in history and posibly wake some people up as to the crap that does take place on ebay. It is obviously more than coincidence that so many zero feedback bidders are converging on one particular watch. There may well be issues involved that nobody here can ever know for sure. It could be as simple as one person seeking revenge for something, kids that think it is funny, whatever.. I would be totally amazed if he ever collects a cent on this listing. Unfortunatly, there are so many ways to remain anonomous on the internet that not much can be done about it.
I, for example, have 2 computers, with 4 operating systems on one, and
2 on the other. Plus I can use the one at work.

[Ball992B]

Unless you don't have a hammersnipe option, or you just will not be near a computer at the right time...

it is RETARDED to bid early.

[Steven Mercer]

I have to get me one of these Mint, Unused, Pristine, models .....somebody want to lend me 2907.00. http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/eek.gif

I will let you hold the watch once in a while. http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/tongue.gif

Steve

PS Who is going to be out the money. http://www.nawcc.org/ubb/confused.gif



[This message has been edited by Steven Mercer (edited 06-30-2002).]

[Barry G]

Good Heavens!!!!!

OK, maybe it's finally time to sell that 10 size Elgin keywind I've been holding onto. The case is 14K gold and very ornate, and in absolutely pristine condition. I paid $300 for it a few years ago, and it currently "books" at around $500, but maybe I can sell it to one of the losing bidders in this auction for, oh, $3000 or so. I mean, all I have to do is hype how rare it is and mention that it si "investment quality". The watch is also an early example from when the companyw as still called the "National Watch Company," so I can play the "historically important" card as well. Heck -- I should be able to $4000 for it!

Unfortunately, I really enjoy wearing the watch, so I guess I'll be hilding onto it for awhile yet after all...

:wink:

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

[lots of time]

I think this whole exercise is an example of how idiots can screw up someones auction with probably no chance of ever getting caught or prosecuted........ Sad..
Regardless of how the watch was represented, the seller didnt deserve this crap

[lots of time]

Actually, It would make you wonder.. who is next???

[Larry S]

Maybe the winning bidder really wanted this watch. It is nice. It could be that he knows nothing about pocketwatches, so he compares price to new wristwatches. What would a new JLC 14k cost? I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. After all, one mans trash is another mans treasure.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1745033313