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Junkhunter
08-18-2005, 02:05 AM
Happened across this, and it just doesn't look "right". I know it's recased, probably redialed, but the s/n shows to be a 10 size Ellery from 1874, and this is a much earlier 18 size watch: look at the jeweling and banking pins.

What is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Waltham-Bartlett-Co-key-win...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Waltham-Bartlett-Co-key-winding-pocket-watch_W0QQitemZ5022292695QQcategoryZ10314QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)
Junkhunter
08-18-2005, 02:05 AM
Happened across this, and it just doesn't look "right". I know it's recased, probably redialed, but the s/n shows to be a 10 size Ellery from 1874, and this is a much earlier 18 size watch: look at the jeweling and banking pins.

What is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Waltham-Bartlett-Co-key-win...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Waltham-Bartlett-Co-key-winding-pocket-watch_W0QQitemZ5022292695QQcategoryZ10314QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)
Jon Hanson
08-18-2005, 02:14 AM
Alan,

I believe the serial number is 112555--yes I know it looks distorted in the pictures.
Junkhunter
08-18-2005, 02:19 AM
That makes more sense, but didn't these have screw-type banking pins by then?
Jon Hanson
08-18-2005, 02:55 AM
I DO NOT HAVE THE WATCH IN HAND BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE BB HAS BEEN SWITCHED???
beta21
08-19-2005, 01:51 AM
The first "7" looks bigger than the second one on my computer. It might even have been 72555 once. ?
Mikrolisk
08-19-2005, 03:21 AM
I read the serial number as 772555 - but that does not fit with the entry in the Waltham database!?
The number 112555 would be suitable with the Waltham database...

Andreas
Jon Hanson
08-19-2005, 03:27 AM
To all,

Many times these early engravers did odd things with numbers, esp 1 and 7s, 6, and 8s, etc.

The movement is obviously not a 10s size and the type and style of the PSB mov't is early.

The real asnwer lies on the underside of the BB.
Wes
08-19-2005, 05:40 PM
The bal wheel looks to be gold instead of steel on my screen. the ledgers show it as a steel wheel.
Jon, our resident Waltham expert, do you have a count of how many (approx) had gold balances? These seem to be much more rare (and I assumed earlier than this).
"School is in...." :biggrin:
Jon Hanson
08-19-2005, 11:18 PM
yes