Case Engraving, Part II

[Larry Jones 98326]

Well, the other link about do you or do you not like presentation engraving on cases motivated me to photo one of mine that I particularly like. Maybe some of you long-time collectors could post one or two that you like (or hate!):

Presentation Engraving (http://www.larjones.com/images/engr1.jpg)

[Larry Jones 98326]

Well, the other link about do you or do you not like presentation engraving on cases motivated me to photo one of mine that I particularly like. Maybe some of you long-time collectors could post one or two that you like (or hate!):

Presentation Engraving (http://www.larjones.com/images/engr1.jpg)

[Cary]

Greyhound Drivers Retirement Gift?

Neat,

Cary

[Cary]

Sorry, this one takes a strap, or a Bonklip to be really correct, but it carries a bit of history behind those letters, I just dont know it.

If any of you Pocket watch guys have any of these crappy things laying in your bench, I will pay the postage for you to send em to me : )

Cary


http://a2.cpimg.com/image/34/7D/6789172-c1a4-028001E0-.jpg

[This message has been edited by Cary (edited 12-21-2001).]

[terry hall]

Larry,
Great Dog.....60 hour?

Cary,
English broad arrow?

[Larry Jones 98326]

Terry,

Actually, case only. I always wanted this to be a cheetah, but everyone else thinks greyhound, I'm outnumbered!

[Kent]

Larry:

Either way. But, does it indicate that the watch runs fast?

Kent :wink:

[Cary]

You got it, "Wrist Watch Waterproof" British Broadarrow on a Buren watch.

Cary

Could be a Cheetah!!

[Larry Jones 98326]

Kent, Cary,

Fast, whatever it is......or is that cheetah (Joisy accent), like the ebay seller that I am - and fast, too??

Cary, damn, I thought you'd discovered the first use of http:// WWW......... (http://WWW.........) or is it watch, waterproof, wrist......
:biggrin:

Larry

[David Thomas]

Here's an old one. The watch is hallmarked 1767 and the the movement is signed Tho's Nadroy, London 2130.

Rich Salt Derby 1775 (http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/davidethomas/salt.jpg)

Front of watch (http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/davidethomas/verge.jpg)



[This message has been edited by David Thomas (edited 12-22-2001).]

[Greg Frauenhoff]

The only watch I own with an interesting (to me anyway) inscription on it is an 18s Aurora (surprise!?) in a solid gold hunting case. I don't have it in front of me, but on the dust cover is a presentation to a guy named Pfeffers from employees of the CB&Q RR dated April, 1889. I was able to locate in the local newspapers a notice that Pfeffers really did receive a gold watch on or about 4/1/89 and so I'm reasonably certain (as certain as one can be?) that the inscription is authentic. I think there is a picture of it around here somewhere and will try to find and post it.

Greg

[Barry G]

I'm not a huge fan of most of the cheesy initials I usually see engraved onto watch cases, but this one is a favorite of mine:

http://barrygoldberg.net/watches/watch6b.jpg

The watch is actually a 16 size Waltham "Marquis" from 1918 in an English-made gold filled demi-hunter case made by the A.L. Dennison watch case company.

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

[Larry Jones 98326]

Barry,

That's a style I'm also fond of that doesn't seem to show up too often. Does anyone know a name for the engraving style?

David,

An early description, and that date really must have some American connection, eh? Any thoughts on the time lag from hallmark to engraving?

But I do wonder, about when did jeweler's start doing presentation engraving, or I should say, when did presentation engraving become common? Yours is by far the earliest I've seen....but I focus mostly on "newer" American watches.

Greg,

This one doesn't sound like a "lowly" Aurora......:D

[Kent]

Wasn't the owner's name Richard Salt and didn't he live in Derby?

[Larry Jones 98326]

Kent,

Sorry, my sense of humor often puzzles normal people, but for some reason most Brits seem to catch on (see, there I go again!) Jones is a good Welsh name, after all.

I am still curious about the 8 years from hallmark to engraving...

Larry

[David Thomas]

Maybe the watchmaker had the case in stock for 8 years before he made the watch and sold it to Richard Salt.

Or maybe the watch was bought second hand and then engraved...

In Watches by Clutton and Daniels there is watch dated 1665 with a case inscription "Richard Baillie at the Aibay"
Beats mine by 100 years.

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[Barry G]

That's all right, Larry. I got the joke at least. I have a watch with a 1776 hallmark, for which I paid quite a premium above and beyond what the watch would normally have been worth.

Barry

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My Online Pocket Watch Collection (http://barrygoldberg.net/watches.htm)

[Larry Jones 98326]

David,

For no good reason I had always assumed that the case was made after the watch, to fit the watch. But I know almost nothing of English watches, were movements made to fit the case?

Larry

[David Thomas]

I am not sure; I think it could have been either way.

Here's an engraving on the back of a Zenith. Does anyone recognise the what type of train it is ?

Zenith (http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/davidethomas/zenithrr.jpg)

[hc3]

Is that meant to be a snow plow on the front? Or a tie ripper?

I was in Derby last month, and I used some salt, if that helps.

[Alan Walker]

Looks like a mistake made by an engraver that knew nothing about trains. Actually, there were such things as tie rippers. They were used mostly in wartime to destroy trackage when retreating. They were large, plow like assemblies that were hung from the rear of a locomotive or piece of rolling stock and could be towed with the cutting blade engaged at a pretty good clip (twenty or thirty miles an hour), allowing a good amount of trackage to be destroyed in a short amount of time.