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HeatherKs
06-04-2006, 11:45 AM
Hello, I was trying to do some research on a Illinois pocket watch so that I can sell it. While browsing through forums, discussions and etc, I got even more confused on my watch. I really got scared when ebay links were being linked to discuss the errors, fraud, etc. Please help! I don't want to be an example with wrong information on this watch. (ha-ha) I just want to give the correct information about this watch and I don't know what the correct information is. If someone could help me, I would really appreciate it.
According to the "Complete Price Guide" This is a Illinois Watch Co. 18s watch manufactured in 1883 (s# 476858) from there I'm lost. I've read where it has been described as a "Transitional" because of KW/SW, but the "Transitional" is "Model 2" The "Model 3" has the 5th pinion, (which, I think mine has) and is lever set, which I can set mine with the lever or the pendant. The front dial on mine is different than some I've seen too. The "font" type of "Illinois Watch Co." (which I've seen on the movement is cursive on others and mine is different) I've also noticed the "sunk" dial on others are in 15 incliments and mine is 10. My case is also "Silverode" instead of gold, which is why I wonder if perhaps the differences is mine is a lower grade? How many jewels does mine have?? Whew, all this to be "politically correct" ha-ha. Here's some pics of my watch. Thanks! Heather
http://static.flickr.com/47/160358443_402dbbe4cc.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/60/160358428_fcc35bcd64.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/69/160358438_f141df301c.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/51/160433974_72d98fe12a.jpg

Tom McIntyre
06-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Your watch is in a Silverode case because it has been recased. There is evidence of a differnt movement having been in the case.

I personally think "transitional" is a wasted term. The watch is a lever set 3rd model with the 5th pinion. It is a Grade 2/2S with 11 jewels. The hole jewels seen in the top plate are not matched in the pillar plate. It was made between April and June 1883.

There were a total of 37,016 watches made in this grade in 113 runs between 1879 and 1897. It was a popular inexpensive movement.

Wes
06-05-2006, 07:00 AM
Heather,
Nothing to add to Tom's post, as his information reflects the information contained in the old ref ::Illinois Database CD by Dr Russ Snyder.

Nice photos.
These earlier Illinois watches seem to sell quite easily at book value, especially when serviced and running, even when recased.

Kent
06-05-2006, 08:04 AM
A comparison of the Illinois grade No. 2 to other 18-size full plate, or 18-size nickel, watches in the Illinois line may be seen online in a 530 Kb scan of an 1887 Catalog (http://static.flickr.com/27/43570061_f24bcaeb4e_b.jpg).